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		<title>By: Fincas en Venta</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/what-google-knows-about-spam/#comment-398208</link>
		<dc:creator>Fincas en Venta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question...

I did comment some nice photos on Panoramio and in one or two days I got dozens of links coming into my site, I understand that It happened because did write my link, that´s ok, however and because Panoramio´s system my comments multiplied by 4 times more or less to other users´s comments...

Is this Spam?</description>
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<p>I did comment some nice photos on Panoramio and in one or two days I got dozens of links coming into my site, I understand that It happened because did write my link, that´s ok, however and because Panoramio´s system my comments multiplied by 4 times more or less to other users´s comments&#8230;</p>
<p>Is this Spam?</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/what-google-knows-about-spam/#comment-352372</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question is what does Google do about a Gmail Account Holder spamming many Google Groups over a week?

And the answer is NOTHING, even those The Gmail Account Holder have reported many times to Google, in fact not doing anything Google is helping the spammer and if so how much commission does Google get from the spammer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question is what does Google do about a Gmail Account Holder spamming many Google Groups over a week?</p>
<p>And the answer is NOTHING, even those The Gmail Account Holder have reported many times to Google, in fact not doing anything Google is helping the spammer and if so how much commission does Google get from the spammer?</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/what-google-knows-about-spam/#comment-297633</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!


&lt;i&gt;The more spam there was, the richer Google got.&lt;/i&gt;

from  www.scroogle.org/bubble.html


?comments


Karl


PS: I try to say it at all ways; but no reaction:

Globalisation Ballet  is dancing in Heiligendamm the expensive dance of NoDecision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!</p>
<p><i>The more spam there was, the richer Google got.</i></p>
<p>from  <a href="http://www.scroogle.org/bubble.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.scroogle.org/bubble.html</a></p>
<p>?comments</p>
<p>Karl</p>
<p>PS: I try to say it at all ways; but no reaction:</p>
<p>Globalisation Ballet  is dancing in Heiligendamm the expensive dance of NoDecision.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/what-google-knows-about-spam/#comment-274130</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spam is the ONLY way to ma to make money on the web
I live in poor country and my family is the most important to me
You live in comfort and can smile all the way to the bank  

What is better?

1. Spend HALF year optimizing site for few keywords and loose first position overnight because someone do it better

2. Made mass pages and after 5 days make 10 to 20 $ a day

Really - 2 options is the ONLY logical choice for thinking peoples

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spam is the ONLY way to ma to make money on the web<br />
I live in poor country and my family is the most important to me<br />
You live in comfort and can smile all the way to the bank  </p>
<p>What is better?</p>
<p>1. Spend HALF year optimizing site for few keywords and loose first position overnight because someone do it better</p>
<p>2. Made mass pages and after 5 days make 10 to 20 $ a day</p>
<p>Really &#8211; 2 options is the ONLY logical choice for thinking peoples</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Regal</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/what-google-knows-about-spam/#comment-137463</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Regal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have noticed more and more instances of fake press releases showing up on google lately.

For example a company posts a link to a press release about being honored by an association, then they link to the associations website.

You go to the associations website listed in the press release and find out through a whois that the domain was just recently created, and owned by the company who the press release was about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have noticed more and more instances of fake press releases showing up on google lately.</p>
<p>For example a company posts a link to a press release about being honored by an association, then they link to the associations website.</p>
<p>You go to the associations website listed in the press release and find out through a whois that the domain was just recently created, and owned by the company who the press release was about.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/what-google-knows-about-spam/#comment-131868</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

The site I mentioned in my last comment, came out of Google&#039;s penalty box shortly after I posted it here and has stayed out until yestarday.

Again, this is not a spam site, but seems to be caught-up in your spam algorithms. Can you please take a look at the site?

Thanks,
Lawrence</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>The site I mentioned in my last comment, came out of Google&#8217;s penalty box shortly after I posted it here and has stayed out until yestarday.</p>
<p>Again, this is not a spam site, but seems to be caught-up in your spam algorithms. Can you please take a look at the site?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Lawrence</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/what-google-knows-about-spam/#comment-128021</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 03:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to say that I was thoroughly impressed with your presentation. 

No &quot;Ums&quot;, &quot;Likes&quot;, &quot;You Knows&quot;, and dear lord thank you for not reading the slides verbatim. =)

Not to mention the subject material was extremely interesting and insightful as well. =D

Thanks for all the great work Matt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to say that I was thoroughly impressed with your presentation. </p>
<p>No &#8220;Ums&#8221;, &#8220;Likes&#8221;, &#8220;You Knows&#8221;, and dear lord thank you for not reading the slides verbatim. =)</p>
<p>Not to mention the subject material was extremely interesting and insightful as well. =D</p>
<p>Thanks for all the great work Matt.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/what-google-knows-about-spam/#comment-127803</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 13:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

Found your slides interesting, but the types of spam you displayed was really old school. I would hope Google knows more about spam than what you talked about.

 I personally know you do, but I think that your software algorithms have focused so much in detecting spam, that they make big mistakes and penalize sites that have earned the public&#039;s trust for many years, even before Google was around.

 I have one such site that spends more time in Google&#039;s penalty box and the site is not a spam site at all, but a Public Service!

 You mentioned to sign-up to Google&#039;s webmaster and you would alert a site if there was something wrong.

Hmmm, out of all my sites that have signed-up to this, they have never got a message from Google even when I have requested a reply.

I would really like to communicate with you Matt, but not in this forum.
Matt, I have some ideas for new features at Google.

Thanks,
Lawrence</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>Found your slides interesting, but the types of spam you displayed was really old school. I would hope Google knows more about spam than what you talked about.</p>
<p> I personally know you do, but I think that your software algorithms have focused so much in detecting spam, that they make big mistakes and penalize sites that have earned the public&#8217;s trust for many years, even before Google was around.</p>
<p> I have one such site that spends more time in Google&#8217;s penalty box and the site is not a spam site at all, but a Public Service!</p>
<p> You mentioned to sign-up to Google&#8217;s webmaster and you would alert a site if there was something wrong.</p>
<p>Hmmm, out of all my sites that have signed-up to this, they have never got a message from Google even when I have requested a reply.</p>
<p>I would really like to communicate with you Matt, but not in this forum.<br />
Matt, I have some ideas for new features at Google.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Lawrence</p>
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		<title>By: Peter (IMC)</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/what-google-knows-about-spam/#comment-127482</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter (IMC)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 21:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read the whole paragraph Dave, or the whole post for that matter. Taking one sentence and commenting on just that sentence is taking it out of context.

Spamming in order to make money is bad and anoying, but spamming blogs to get more attention is extremely enoying. If you don&#039;t have anything other to do than searching for things to critize then go take a walk or something but stay away from your computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the whole paragraph Dave, or the whole post for that matter. Taking one sentence and commenting on just that sentence is taking it out of context.</p>
<p>Spamming in order to make money is bad and anoying, but spamming blogs to get more attention is extremely enoying. If you don&#8217;t have anything other to do than searching for things to critize then go take a walk or something but stay away from your computer.</p>
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		<title>By: Raffi</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/what-google-knows-about-spam/#comment-127428</link>
		<dc:creator>Raffi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 06:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matt,

First of all thank you for responding:)

Okay:-) So someone creates the most amazing, the most mind boggling  fictionally and intricately woven dog walker content of all time. All the while having the notion that &quot;content is king&quot; on her mind. She publishes her content, sits back and waits. She hopes if she writes it, the dog walking clients will come. But will they? How will they know the site is there in the first place? Now, if her dog walking site was prominently ranked on the first or even second page, since her site is being found I can see how she would get more natural links and get her site ranked even higher. The rich get richer...The highly ranked get ranked even higher with good content, but what happens to those that have no visible rankings? How will their stories be read in the first place? 

In the true porn clerk story you mentioned, here is how the site got read in the first place and how she got links as taken from the site itself:

&quot;For a while, it was a well kept secret how good her journal was. Then she appeared on NPR&#039;s &quot;This American Life&quot; and all hell broke loose.&quot;

In addition, it is a journal and not really a small commercial website like the one you alluded to in your video and the type of site I have in mind. The porn clerk story is asking for a paypal donation...

In any event, I certainly don&#039;t want to pester you as I truly appreciate you taking the time, but staying in line with your comments on the video of creative link building. Is the below OK and if not, why not?

Consider this - what if someone was buying ads via their Adwords rep on Google for a site that offered widgets. This person works with their Adwords rep who recommends a slew of keywords that will get traffic to the site. So the ads roll out and people find the widget site via a Google ad, sign-up and place the widget on their site. People do not need to compensate the widget site with actual dollars, they just need to give credit to the widget site by linking to it and to one other site. Is that “wrong” and if it is “wrong” do you penalize any site that benefited, including the free widget site knowing that Google sold the ad in the first place?

Once again, for you to take the time to respond to all these people asking questions is totally commendable...Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matt,</p>
<p>First of all thank you for responding:)</p>
<p>Okay:-) So someone creates the most amazing, the most mind boggling  fictionally and intricately woven dog walker content of all time. All the while having the notion that &#8220;content is king&#8221; on her mind. She publishes her content, sits back and waits. She hopes if she writes it, the dog walking clients will come. But will they? How will they know the site is there in the first place? Now, if her dog walking site was prominently ranked on the first or even second page, since her site is being found I can see how she would get more natural links and get her site ranked even higher. The rich get richer&#8230;The highly ranked get ranked even higher with good content, but what happens to those that have no visible rankings? How will their stories be read in the first place? </p>
<p>In the true porn clerk story you mentioned, here is how the site got read in the first place and how she got links as taken from the site itself:</p>
<p>&#8220;For a while, it was a well kept secret how good her journal was. Then she appeared on NPR&#8217;s &#8220;This American Life&#8221; and all hell broke loose.&#8221;</p>
<p>In addition, it is a journal and not really a small commercial website like the one you alluded to in your video and the type of site I have in mind. The porn clerk story is asking for a paypal donation&#8230;</p>
<p>In any event, I certainly don&#8217;t want to pester you as I truly appreciate you taking the time, but staying in line with your comments on the video of creative link building. Is the below OK and if not, why not?</p>
<p>Consider this &#8211; what if someone was buying ads via their Adwords rep on Google for a site that offered widgets. This person works with their Adwords rep who recommends a slew of keywords that will get traffic to the site. So the ads roll out and people find the widget site via a Google ad, sign-up and place the widget on their site. People do not need to compensate the widget site with actual dollars, they just need to give credit to the widget site by linking to it and to one other site. Is that “wrong” and if it is “wrong” do you penalize any site that benefited, including the free widget site knowing that Google sold the ad in the first place?</p>
<p>Once again, for you to take the time to respond to all these people asking questions is totally commendable&#8230;Thank you!</p>
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