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	<title>Comments on: Webspam in 2009?</title>
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		<title>By: Anders Holm</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/webspam-in-2009/#comment-412183</link>
		<dc:creator>Anders Holm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion:

1. Paid links

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2. The possibility that you could buy a domain that already have good pagerank because it have existed before. I know this could be hard to fight because of the preexisting backlinks but in my opinion this should not be possible! Of course you shold be able to move the domain to another (ex. if you sell your bussiness) but if the domain cease to exist the good pagerank ect. should be neutralized an the preexiting backlinks should not be counted forwardedly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion:</p>
<p>1. Paid links</p>
<p>&amp;</p>
<p>2. The possibility that you could buy a domain that already have good pagerank because it have existed before. I know this could be hard to fight because of the preexisting backlinks but in my opinion this should not be possible! Of course you shold be able to move the domain to another (ex. if you sell your bussiness) but if the domain cease to exist the good pagerank ect. should be neutralized an the preexiting backlinks should not be counted forwardedly.</p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/webspam-in-2009/#comment-392500</link>
		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

Add another to your tally of demote ripoffreport.com.  It&#039;s a shame that they are able to take advantage of SEO tactics that get around the spirit of Google&#039;s algorithms.  I find it odd that their so-called reports by consumers all seem to be written by an SEO copywriter, that knows how to both complain about a company and do so in a way that increases SEO.  They&#039;re a lucky bunch to find so many legitimate complainers that also happen to be SEO copywriters don&#039;t you think? 

Anyone else think that Matt&#039;s talley&#039;s of complaints about RipoffReport.com should be a little higher than two?  If so, please speak up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>Add another to your tally of demote ripoffreport.com.  It&#8217;s a shame that they are able to take advantage of SEO tactics that get around the spirit of Google&#8217;s algorithms.  I find it odd that their so-called reports by consumers all seem to be written by an SEO copywriter, that knows how to both complain about a company and do so in a way that increases SEO.  They&#8217;re a lucky bunch to find so many legitimate complainers that also happen to be SEO copywriters don&#8217;t you think? </p>
<p>Anyone else think that Matt&#8217;s talley&#8217;s of complaints about RipoffReport.com should be a little higher than two?  If so, please speak up!</p>
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		<title>By: Abby</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/webspam-in-2009/#comment-345719</link>
		<dc:creator>Abby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kill the duplicate sites. 

Currently I have found that few companies are taking the whole contents (and in few cases the design also) of other competitor&#039;s site which is at top 10 in the SERP for the most competitive keywords.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kill the duplicate sites. </p>
<p>Currently I have found that few companies are taking the whole contents (and in few cases the design also) of other competitor&#8217;s site which is at top 10 in the SERP for the most competitive keywords.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiona</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/webspam-in-2009/#comment-334241</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 03:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Kill duplicate sites. If someone uploads the same site under multiple domains, they should be killed from the index. Happens in Google Australia a fair bit. If you don&#039;t penalise this behaviour, more people will do it thinking they can get away with it. There is one large Australian web developer who is running 100s of sites in duplicate in Google. You can email me if you&#039;re interested in more info about it.

2. I also agree with some of the comments regarding product review sites. I&#039;ve lost count of the times I&#039;ve typed in a search query, got a search match, opened the page and there is a totally different product on display.

3. Also, I don&#039;t like affiliate sites. They add no value when you are looking for something. They should be resigned to the bottom of the rank, appearing on page 57 in the results for instance. (Just a number I&#039;ve plucked from the air, LOL, make it page 157 what the heck!)

4. Off topic, but fix the launch of PDFs in Chrome. Every time I try to open a PDF page in Chrome it shuts the program down. I have already submitted this problem to Google (about a week after Chrome&#039;s launch), but still no fix yet. It means I don&#039;t want to use Chrome even though I love it - it causes too much PDF grief.

I love Google in every other way. Cheers Matt and have a great day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Kill duplicate sites. If someone uploads the same site under multiple domains, they should be killed from the index. Happens in Google Australia a fair bit. If you don&#8217;t penalise this behaviour, more people will do it thinking they can get away with it. There is one large Australian web developer who is running 100s of sites in duplicate in Google. You can email me if you&#8217;re interested in more info about it.</p>
<p>2. I also agree with some of the comments regarding product review sites. I&#8217;ve lost count of the times I&#8217;ve typed in a search query, got a search match, opened the page and there is a totally different product on display.</p>
<p>3. Also, I don&#8217;t like affiliate sites. They add no value when you are looking for something. They should be resigned to the bottom of the rank, appearing on page 57 in the results for instance. (Just a number I&#8217;ve plucked from the air, LOL, make it page 157 what the heck!)</p>
<p>4. Off topic, but fix the launch of PDFs in Chrome. Every time I try to open a PDF page in Chrome it shuts the program down. I have already submitted this problem to Google (about a week after Chrome&#8217;s launch), but still no fix yet. It means I don&#8217;t want to use Chrome even though I love it &#8211; it causes too much PDF grief.</p>
<p>I love Google in every other way. Cheers Matt and have a great day.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Newton</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/webspam-in-2009/#comment-330680</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 07:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, there should be cash rewards for sucessfully reporting spam!

Adwords credit would also be acceptible ;) Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, there should be cash rewards for sucessfully reporting spam!</p>
<p>Adwords credit would also be acceptible <img src='http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Newton</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/webspam-in-2009/#comment-330678</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 07:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things that really bug me as an SEO (and are bad for Google) -

1) Proxied numbers listed with regular numbers in Google Local Business results. Background: I have seen some companies set up several local businesses setup &#039;proxied&#039; phone numbers, e.g. 1300 FOO BAA which redirect to their actual phone line. In one case I saw one company listed 5 times in the SERP mini-map using proxied numbers which all went back to the same phone number.

2) Ecommerce sites posing as informational sites. What I mean by this is ecommerce pages which pretend to be impartial &#039;buying guides&#039; but are actually just sales landing pages with product listings. It is fine when people do this on seperate pages, but when they do it on the same page it gets really annoying. I have been doing some SEO work in the diamond industry lately - this would be a good place to start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things that really bug me as an SEO (and are bad for Google) -</p>
<p>1) Proxied numbers listed with regular numbers in Google Local Business results. Background: I have seen some companies set up several local businesses setup &#8216;proxied&#8217; phone numbers, e.g. 1300 FOO BAA which redirect to their actual phone line. In one case I saw one company listed 5 times in the SERP mini-map using proxied numbers which all went back to the same phone number.</p>
<p>2) Ecommerce sites posing as informational sites. What I mean by this is ecommerce pages which pretend to be impartial &#8216;buying guides&#8217; but are actually just sales landing pages with product listings. It is fine when people do this on seperate pages, but when they do it on the same page it gets really annoying. I have been doing some SEO work in the diamond industry lately &#8211; this would be a good place to start.</p>
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		<title>By: Bert</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/webspam-in-2009/#comment-279193</link>
		<dc:creator>Bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop Google Translate Spam

http://www.google.com/search?hl=nl&amp;rlz=1T4GZHZ_nlNL224NL225&amp;q=site%3Atranslate.google.com+inurl%3Atext&amp;lr=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop Google Translate Spam</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=nl&amp;rlz=1T4GZHZ_nlNL224NL225&amp;q=site%3Atranslate.google.com+inurl%3Atext&amp;lr=" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?hl=nl&amp;rlz=1T4GZHZ_nlNL224NL225&amp;q=site%3Atranslate.google.com+inurl%3Atext&amp;lr=</a></p>
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		<title>By: Herbert Thaler</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/webspam-in-2009/#comment-277897</link>
		<dc:creator>Herbert Thaler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suggest to add more human power in order to enrich the algorithmic PageRank system with corrective intelligence.

Human expertise and manpower will decrease the volume of webspam ex post. I think webspammers will always try to overcome the algorithm; but experts who diminish spam after being indexed will help to keep the spamrate low.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest to add more human power in order to enrich the algorithmic PageRank system with corrective intelligence.</p>
<p>Human expertise and manpower will decrease the volume of webspam ex post. I think webspammers will always try to overcome the algorithm; but experts who diminish spam after being indexed will help to keep the spamrate low.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Wu</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/webspam-in-2009/#comment-247965</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Wu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 04:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There needs to be a better way to handle penalty. Not just an email, telling people to read the webmaster guideline, but perhaps automatic warning messages for the specific offenses in the webmaster tools and email alerts, and give webmaster a bit of time to fix their problems if possible.  

Us webmasters are more than happy to follow the rules, sudden de-ranking from Google is like being sent into execution without knowing what crimes we have committed. If you want people to follow your rules, you tell them what they did wrong, and punish them harshly and make examples of them.  

We Chinese have a saying, “killing the chicken to warn the monkeys”, which was a story of a pet owner who owns a bunch of chicken and monkeys making tons of noises. So he went ahead and killed a few chickens, monkeys, being smarter, stopped misbehaving right away. Make a public demonstration of punishing wrongdoers in order to deter innocents who might mimic the example of the wrongdoers.

Same goes for misbehaving webmasters, write down your rules (webmaster guideline is far too vague), and make a few public examples with the exact crimes of each offense, smarter webmasters will get it right away and fix their offending errors and hopefully that message will spread to the less informed webmasters (chickens). Right now Google is like randomly firing shots into that bunch of monkey and chickens, and they are still making tons of noises and jumping about without knowing what they are doing wrong. I&#039;d be very happy to know what I am doing wrong currently with my site to get the Google penalty so I can fix it to comply with the rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There needs to be a better way to handle penalty. Not just an email, telling people to read the webmaster guideline, but perhaps automatic warning messages for the specific offenses in the webmaster tools and email alerts, and give webmaster a bit of time to fix their problems if possible.  </p>
<p>Us webmasters are more than happy to follow the rules, sudden de-ranking from Google is like being sent into execution without knowing what crimes we have committed. If you want people to follow your rules, you tell them what they did wrong, and punish them harshly and make examples of them.  </p>
<p>We Chinese have a saying, “killing the chicken to warn the monkeys”, which was a story of a pet owner who owns a bunch of chicken and monkeys making tons of noises. So he went ahead and killed a few chickens, monkeys, being smarter, stopped misbehaving right away. Make a public demonstration of punishing wrongdoers in order to deter innocents who might mimic the example of the wrongdoers.</p>
<p>Same goes for misbehaving webmasters, write down your rules (webmaster guideline is far too vague), and make a few public examples with the exact crimes of each offense, smarter webmasters will get it right away and fix their offending errors and hopefully that message will spread to the less informed webmasters (chickens). Right now Google is like randomly firing shots into that bunch of monkey and chickens, and they are still making tons of noises and jumping about without knowing what they are doing wrong. I&#8217;d be very happy to know what I am doing wrong currently with my site to get the Google penalty so I can fix it to comply with the rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Henk Jan</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/webspam-in-2009/#comment-245759</link>
		<dc:creator>Henk Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the most companies dont want to do something wrong for google SEO, but still they have some problems with their rankings. Maybe you can show more options in webmastertools like suggestions, trends what to do and do not, show bad links, or add here a (payed) helpdesk and give websites more details. It is impossible to communicate!.

Further it is worth it to start a better DMOZ directory with google employees and not the volunteers only (a lot of categories are empty and filled with old links). Ask some money for a listing and check the links every month. This directory could be more important for ranking if you make it more value.

Stop appreciate links so much, it is more interesting to watch the real unique content and how much it change. Maybe it is an option for every webmaster to put you analytics open voor google ranking: post things like time on site and bounce rates to google. The better websites will do it for sure. In other word, give the best websites more opportunities to show google that they are seo friendly etcetera.

PS Google spam by their self as well: adwords links at the left site above the organic results, do you think my dad still see the difference? Be an example, dont do that. It will break you up one day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the most companies dont want to do something wrong for google SEO, but still they have some problems with their rankings. Maybe you can show more options in webmastertools like suggestions, trends what to do and do not, show bad links, or add here a (payed) helpdesk and give websites more details. It is impossible to communicate!.</p>
<p>Further it is worth it to start a better DMOZ directory with google employees and not the volunteers only (a lot of categories are empty and filled with old links). Ask some money for a listing and check the links every month. This directory could be more important for ranking if you make it more value.</p>
<p>Stop appreciate links so much, it is more interesting to watch the real unique content and how much it change. Maybe it is an option for every webmaster to put you analytics open voor google ranking: post things like time on site and bounce rates to google. The better websites will do it for sure. In other word, give the best websites more opportunities to show google that they are seo friendly etcetera.</p>
<p>PS Google spam by their self as well: adwords links at the left site above the organic results, do you think my dad still see the difference? Be an example, dont do that. It will break you up one day.</p>
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