Any chance of letting us know why the Sep 22 changes lost so many of us our positions when we’re essentially doing nothing wrong?

http://www.voxeo.com #1 IVR on Google
http://www.vxml.org
http://www.rjauburn.com

All three are owned by voxeo but have 3 different
registrations. All run on same domain server.

Here’s the network

voxeo links out once to vxml HOME on every pages.

rjauburn links twice to voxeo HOME every page (IVR &
VoiceXML). No links back

vxml links twice to voxeo every page (IVR & VoiceXML)

My traffic was dropped from 5-6k visits per day down to 1100 when Google started ‘fixing’ things.

More then 140 key search phrases tanked along with the site traffic. What rose up to take my place were made for adsense sites that stole the title’s and content from my own to take my place. It’s as clear as day because all my page titles are prefixed with my site’s name. Yes, I have reported them, and no, I haven’t seen any changes – they’re still there.

It seems that Google is subsidizing this activity by paying those people adsense dollars.

My site is legit, helps thousands of people world-wide and generates/devlops it’s own content (not scraping).

Prior to the Google updates my site was seeing steady (all year) traffic of 5k visits per day and growing to 6k because of the content I was adding by helping others.

I’m not alone – there are many, many others who are reporting drastic drops to the extent that they may not be in business any longer.

On top of that, more and more reports are surfacing about people doing searches on Google and not finding anything relavent except scraper sites. Many people are turning to MSN or Yahoo to get an accurate search.

Prior to the updates the scraper sites didn’t matter to me. I was able to power right past them due to my site’s well-deserved ownership of key phrases. Thousands of people were helped by my site’s tech support answers and now there’s so few people that several have commented that it’s become like a ghost town.

Talent that I had been trying to attract to the site mentioned to me that there’s no need for them to answer questions – there’s no backlog! On top of that I made a deal with top people at Microsoft to help with tech support for visitors to my site that are experiencing new bugs/problems. I also recently signed a deal for dedicated server hosting and what happens?

Google tanks my site and rewards the scraper sites. My adsense earnings drop like a rock and the scrapers make more then they ever have. I’m not alone, there’s thousands (if not millions) who have legitimate sites and have been ruined by Jagger.

I don’t understand what was wrong with Google in the first place. My site ranked near the top or at the top for all the key areas it’s involved in. For me this means that people having problems immediately found relavent content that typically fixed their issues. As a result the customer was happy.

Any phrases I didn’t rank at the top on were appropriate, other sites had better ways of addressing the issue. It was fair and the customer won each time by finding the right content. My adsense earnings were covering the cost of site hosting and I was hoping for a little extra. Now I’m back to paying out of pocket (like the last 4 years) to help others for free.

Just when I thought I’d finally found a way to help others and cover my costs and maybe, just hopefully earn a little for my time too the Jagger Effect set in and wiped out my site. I still have 1100 visits per day so if you have any more updates maybe you can cut my site right off at the knees too and be done with it.

Example:

Google search 66.102.9.104

http://66.102.9.104/search?hl=en&q=casa+varese&btnG=Google+Search

http://www.babelecase.it/annunci/tipo.asp?id=Varese

No 1 hidden text, this is one of the biggest sites in Italy PR5. 1500000 pages indexed

http://www.risorseimmobiliari.it/tipo/case_varese.asp

No 4 hidden text PR 4 240000 pages indexed.

http://www.casaepoi.it/link/varese/varese.htm

No16 hidden text PR4 120000 pages indexed

And these are some of the worst offenders, check it out, its spam city. So my question is, how do they get away with it, has jagger worked? At least MSN and Yahoo have spotted these offenders.

If you want to run multiple subdomains you can, go for it. I would always opt for one big site when the themes are related though. Makes much more sense, holds no risks, easier for customers, no cross-linking, better for SE and better for SEO and Webmasters etc etc. It’s only if the topics were totally unrelated that I would use sub domains, or different ones. Then, I woulld simply not need to cross-link.

Care to share your URL?

Is it appropriate to report an obvious link network that is manufacturing high PR among several sites as Spam? Should I include Jagger2 in this report?