Comments on: Text links and PageRank http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/text-links-and-pagerank/ neat fun stuff Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:55:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mark Adkinson http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/text-links-and-pagerank/#comment-467919 Mark Adkinson Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:21:10 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=33#comment-467919 I've tried to denounce competitors using paid links etc. but so far (6 months) nothing seems to happen; they are still in the same places. I’ve tried to denounce competitors using paid links etc. but so far (6 months) nothing seems to happen; they are still in the same places.

]]> By: Kirk http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/text-links-and-pagerank/#comment-462594 Kirk Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:03:43 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=33#comment-462594 Bob, that's a great question and the safest bet is that if it's gaming the system you will get caught and you will be penalized in some fashion. So...if you are linking to a money site you will not want to be doing that as your business could suffer in the near future. Just because what you see one company doing is not necessarily the entire picture. So take things nice and slow and put out quality. Have fun with your customers. Ask for referrals. Build a newsletter and send that to your regular clients to keep yourself on the "Top of their mind" and remember to have fun yourself. Bob,
that’s a great question and the safest bet is that if it’s gaming the system you will get caught and you will be penalized in some fashion. So…if you are linking to a money site you will not want to be doing that as your business could suffer in the near future. Just because what you see one company doing is not necessarily the entire picture. So take things nice and slow and put out quality. Have fun with your customers. Ask for referrals. Build a newsletter and send that to your regular clients to keep yourself on the “Top of their mind” and remember to have fun yourself.

]]> By: Mike http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/text-links-and-pagerank/#comment-452538 Mike Wed, 13 Jan 2010 08:08:32 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=33#comment-452538 Bob, I think this idea works for a while but if your bread and butter depends on the website I would recommend not taking a risk. I know one site which was doing really well about six months ago and now they are no where on the first 8 pages of google. They made about 30 single page sites and back linked all of them to their main site. One fine morning they were wrapped. I guess google suspect you are link buyer if your link are increasing by 30 a day. Frankly you can not get 30 genuine links a day. I know this site and it had very few back links but still rates very well on google, probably it has good reference back links <a href="http://www.mcgillteak.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mcgillteak.com/</a>. I would say stay genuine and with time you will get where you deserve. Just focus on good text writing and make informative website. Good luck Bob,
I think this idea works for a while but if your bread and butter depends on the website I would recommend not taking a risk. I know one site which was doing really well about six months ago and now they are no where on the first 8 pages of google. They made about 30 single page sites and back linked all of them to their main site. One fine morning they were wrapped. I guess google suspect you are link buyer if your link are increasing by 30 a day.
Frankly you can not get 30 genuine links a day. I know this site and it had very few back links but still rates very well on google, probably it has good reference back links http://www.mcgillteak.com/. I would say stay genuine and with time you will get where you deserve. Just focus on good text writing and make informative website. Good luck

]]> By: Bob http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/text-links-and-pagerank/#comment-445632 Bob Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:17:40 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=33#comment-445632 Hi Mike, Its hard to understand what's good or bad when advertising on the Internet. I find lots of different seo companies with different ideas on how to improve website business. I'm still confused on whats safe to do. A good example is one of our competitors 24hourwristbands dot com has gone from bottom of the Google directory to the top in a few months. After several hours of trying to figure out why, I find they hired an seo company that has created many web pages with Links to their website. This must have cost a fortune we don't have, but we probably could get the money if we thought it would not penalize us in the future in Google. Seems to me they are buying links from the seo company. What do you think? How do we know if this is OK to do? Thanks Bob Hi Mike,
Its hard to understand what’s good or bad when advertising on the Internet. I find lots of different seo companies with different ideas on how to improve website business. I’m still confused on whats safe to do. A good example is one of our competitors 24hourwristbands dot com has gone from bottom of the Google directory to the top in a few months. After several hours of trying to figure out why, I find they hired an seo company that has created many web pages with Links to their website. This must have cost a fortune we don’t have, but we probably could get the money if we thought it would not penalize us in the future in Google. Seems to me they are buying links from the seo company. What do you think? How do we know if this is OK to do?
Thanks Bob

]]> By: Andy Parker http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/text-links-and-pagerank/#comment-434061 Andy Parker Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:21:48 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=33#comment-434061 I also do not like the idea of paid links as they make it more difficult for free or opensource project to get high ranking. I think that punishing paid links is a good idea. Maybe, I do not understand it, but I do not like the idea of nofollow. Fow example, Wikipedia is using nofollow, but I do not understand why sites referenced by Wikipedia should not get the credit. I also do not like the idea of paid links as they make it more difficult for free or opensource project to get high ranking. I think that punishing paid links is a good idea. Maybe, I do not understand it, but I do not like the idea of nofollow. Fow example, Wikipedia is using nofollow, but I do not understand why sites referenced by Wikipedia should not get the credit.

]]> By: Ronnie Glass http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/text-links-and-pagerank/#comment-433070 Ronnie Glass Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:21:22 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=33#comment-433070 This is pretty silly (Google's POV). If someone is paying for a text link ad that means that they... 1. have money to advertise, and 2. want to move to the top of page 1 organic for a particular term I cannot think of any better way to deem them a relevant site that this (cash to burn on advertising and desire to be on page one). As the biggest corporation on the web, you must either improve your algorithm to treat all sites fairly or stop trying to detect paid links and penalizing them. You may try and argue that they should just buy adwords but adwords is wrought with click fraud, low click through rates, and low conversions. Primarily "natural born" clickers click on adwords and these "natural born" clickers are not good for converting into paying customers. This is Google's problem to deal with and telling folks to not buy paid text links or penalizing paid text link exchanges / brokers / those that participate is completely ridiculous, illogical, and more suitable for an entity that operates like a police state as opposed to in accordance with its mission. Too many irrelevant sites appear at the top of your rankings today. Update your algorithm. The finger should be pointing at you and not at the sites that want to move up in organic search results. Invest more resources into displaying relevant search results rather than policing text link buyers with relevant sites to promote. This is pretty silly (Google’s POV). If someone is paying for a text link ad that means that they…

1. have money to advertise, and
2. want to move to the top of page 1 organic for a particular term

I cannot think of any better way to deem them a relevant site that this (cash to burn on advertising and desire to be on page one). As the biggest corporation on the web, you must either improve your algorithm to treat all sites fairly or stop trying to detect paid links and penalizing them.

You may try and argue that they should just buy adwords but adwords is wrought with click fraud, low click through rates, and low conversions. Primarily “natural born” clickers click on adwords and these “natural born” clickers are not good for converting into paying customers. This is Google’s problem to deal with and telling folks to not buy paid text links or penalizing paid text link exchanges / brokers / those that participate is completely ridiculous, illogical, and more suitable for an entity that operates like a police state as opposed to in accordance with its mission. Too many irrelevant sites appear at the top of your rankings today. Update your algorithm. The finger should be pointing at you and not at the sites that want to move up in organic search results. Invest more resources into displaying relevant search results rather than policing text link buyers with relevant sites to promote.

]]> By: Thomas http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/text-links-and-pagerank/#comment-431717 Thomas Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:37:06 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=33#comment-431717 How can I be sure I will not get penalized for putting links in my sidebar! I have a couple of auto related blogs and they some link to each other, some link to my friends, some link to my company. How can Google and other Search Engines tell that this is all Kosher? How can I be sure I will not get penalized for putting links in my sidebar! I have a couple of auto related blogs and they some link to each other, some link to my friends, some link to my company. How can Google and other Search Engines tell that this is all Kosher?

]]> By: Joseph Mas http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/text-links-and-pagerank/#comment-423669 Joseph Mas Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:59:46 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=33#comment-423669 I have a small legitimate website for my business. However, with a marketing budget that is less than a car payment how am I supposed to get a better ranking? Building a base of sites that have exchanged links is real work. So am I going to get penalized for hard work and trying to promote my site? The site adds value to consumers and puts food on the table for me. What is the best solution to build up page rank when there is so much competition on the web. Should another site that provides the "exact service" as I do have a better ranking just because they have more capital to spend? Does this mean the little guys like myself are nothing but chum for the internet fish? I have a small legitimate website for my business. However, with a marketing budget that is less than a car payment how am I supposed to get a better ranking? Building a base of sites that have exchanged links is real work. So am I going to get penalized for hard work and trying to promote my site? The site adds value to consumers and puts food on the table for me. What is the best solution to build up page rank when there is so much competition on the web. Should another site that provides the “exact service” as I do have a better ranking just because they have more capital to spend? Does this mean the little guys like myself are nothing but chum for the internet fish?

]]> By: Leigh Woolard http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/text-links-and-pagerank/#comment-418532 Leigh Woolard Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:50:33 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=33#comment-418532 Interesting reading everyones comments over the past few years and how things have changed. Buying links still seems to be an issue and being on credible websites that can assist your search engine rankings means do we have a choice? Link building can be a real challenge!! Interesting reading everyones comments over the past few years and how things have changed. Buying links still seems to be an issue and being on credible websites that can assist your search engine rankings means do we have a choice? Link building can be a real challenge!!

]]> By: Steve Ball http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/text-links-and-pagerank/#comment-400164 Steve Ball Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:45:19 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=33#comment-400164 12 years ago when google didnt really bother about whether a site had paid links or not webmasters were able gain high page ranking for sites that today have top page ranking, these sites are now kept at the top of the ranking due to their popularity, how can google now say that the rules have changed, without the 1,000s of inbound paid links that these sites had to buy to get to the top to gain the popularity, how are webmasters of today expected to get high page rankings with new sites without using the same means that webmasters used 12 years ago, is google going to drop every site and start from a clean slate giving everyone the same chance to get to the top without paid links just good content ? i think not, so paid links it has to be ! 12 years ago when google didnt really bother about whether a site had paid links or not webmasters were able gain high page ranking for sites that today have top page ranking, these sites are now kept at the top of the ranking due to their popularity, how can google now say that the rules have changed, without the 1,000s of inbound paid links that these sites had to buy to get to the top to gain the popularity, how are webmasters of today expected to get high page rankings with new sites without using the same means that webmasters used 12 years ago, is google going to drop every site and start from a clean slate giving everyone the same chance to get to the top without paid links just good content ?
i think not, so paid links it has to be !

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