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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/simplifying-apache-configuration/#comment-101113</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 21:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Matt!
I will try this on my site map. The .htaccess syntax is very powerful. You can do some amazing things with it.
Thanks again Matt for great articles!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Matt!<br />
I will try this on my site map. The .htaccess syntax is very powerful. You can do some amazing things with it.<br />
Thanks again Matt for great articles!</p>
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		<title>By: AskApache</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/simplifying-apache-configuration/#comment-98566</link>
		<dc:creator>AskApache</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 20:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone ever takes up this challenge (still needed) Feel free to use the article &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.askapache.com/2006/htaccess/htaccesselite-ultimate-htaccess-article.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ultimate htaccess article&lt;/a&gt; as a reference.  The day is coming..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone ever takes up this challenge (still needed) Feel free to use the article <a href="http://www.askapache.com/2006/htaccess/htaccesselite-ultimate-htaccess-article.html" rel="nofollow">Ultimate htaccess article</a> as a reference.  The day is coming..</p>
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		<title>By: Tufan KILICASLAN</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/simplifying-apache-configuration/#comment-25485</link>
		<dc:creator>Tufan KILICASLAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 06:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I m using a package program that install php,mysql,apache and phpmyadmin easily. You can download Phpdev at this adress http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpdev5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I m using a package program that install php,mysql,apache and phpmyadmin easily. You can download Phpdev at this adress <a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpdev5" rel="nofollow">http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpdev5</a></p>
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		<title>By: claus</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/simplifying-apache-configuration/#comment-25301</link>
		<dc:creator>claus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 00:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, I really appreciate your thoughts on this issue. I have answered countless questions on these issues over the years, so I know this is an area that causes problems.

But, you may want to consider that by exposing the very concept of &quot;htaccess&quot; through a tool such as Google sitemaps (or any other Google branded thing) you create extra attention towards it. 

That will mean that people who would otherwise never even know such a tool existed will suddently:

(1) start asking in forums what it does, 
(2) hear all kinds of half-baked success stories, 
(3) start experimenting with it with no real need
(4) make lots of errors, and
(5) write a lot of posts in forums calling for help

(and possibly cursing forums, htaccess, apache, and Google all the way)

The Apache config files are very powerful tools. You can actually disable access to your whole site by accident if you mess it up - and I guess that&#039;s where Google&#039;s interest lies. 

But, both Google and the few people that dare to answer questions on these issues would really be better off if we turned this questions upside down:

How do we make it less necessary for people to mess with these files in the first place?

These are actually issues that the fine people at Google can solve (mostly) in-house, and without even thinking about Apache. It&#039;s about 

a) handling long URLs better, 
b) handling URLs with parameters better
c) handling site and page relocations better (301, 302, meta ...)

If these issues were handled better and/or more consisently all we needed was communication, and less people would feel a need to mess with htaccess files. I would gladly help in the communication effort as that would mean answering the same questions over-and-over-again less times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, I really appreciate your thoughts on this issue. I have answered countless questions on these issues over the years, so I know this is an area that causes problems.</p>
<p>But, you may want to consider that by exposing the very concept of &#8220;htaccess&#8221; through a tool such as Google sitemaps (or any other Google branded thing) you create extra attention towards it. </p>
<p>That will mean that people who would otherwise never even know such a tool existed will suddently:</p>
<p>(1) start asking in forums what it does,<br />
(2) hear all kinds of half-baked success stories,<br />
(3) start experimenting with it with no real need<br />
(4) make lots of errors, and<br />
(5) write a lot of posts in forums calling for help</p>
<p>(and possibly cursing forums, htaccess, apache, and Google all the way)</p>
<p>The Apache config files are very powerful tools. You can actually disable access to your whole site by accident if you mess it up &#8211; and I guess that&#8217;s where Google&#8217;s interest lies. </p>
<p>But, both Google and the few people that dare to answer questions on these issues would really be better off if we turned this questions upside down:</p>
<p>How do we make it less necessary for people to mess with these files in the first place?</p>
<p>These are actually issues that the fine people at Google can solve (mostly) in-house, and without even thinking about Apache. It&#8217;s about </p>
<p>a) handling long URLs better,<br />
b) handling URLs with parameters better<br />
c) handling site and page relocations better (301, 302, meta &#8230;)</p>
<p>If these issues were handled better and/or more consisently all we needed was communication, and less people would feel a need to mess with htaccess files. I would gladly help in the communication effort as that would mean answering the same questions over-and-over-again less times.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Munene</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/simplifying-apache-configuration/#comment-25180</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Munene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 06:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>

Hey Matt, 
I am also planning to develop a module that would make doing mod_rewrite a breeze, maybe using C++ so that it can be incorporated into other GUIs like WebMin, Comanche etc.
Actually, i have just submitted my proposal to SOC 2006, but whether i get approved or not does not matter, i will still do it.

Any ideas would be greatly welcome.

erkan, i got loads of free time and i would love to help you anywhere i can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Matt,<br />
I am also planning to develop a module that would make doing mod_rewrite a breeze, maybe using C++ so that it can be incorporated into other GUIs like WebMin, Comanche etc.<br />
Actually, i have just submitted my proposal to SOC 2006, but whether i get approved or not does not matter, i will still do it.</p>
<p>Any ideas would be greatly welcome.</p>
<p>erkan, i got loads of free time and i would love to help you anywhere i can.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/simplifying-apache-configuration/#comment-24991</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 04:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers!

The idea is really great! 

Most people will(or would like to) configure apache remotely, so any local app will be only a half-solution or even 1/8 solution. 
I&#039;d suggest developing mod for apache that will provide simple web interface. Like if you go to http://www.yoursite.com/yourfolder/.htaccess and get it right there.

Of course it&#039;s going to be a serious challenge to compete with a simplicity of plain text files.

Looking to participate in SoC 2006
Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers!</p>
<p>The idea is really great! </p>
<p>Most people will(or would like to) configure apache remotely, so any local app will be only a half-solution or even 1/8 solution.<br />
I&#8217;d suggest developing mod for apache that will provide simple web interface. Like if you go to <a href="http://www.yoursite.com/yourfolder/.htaccess" rel="nofollow">http://www.yoursite.com/yourfolder/.htaccess</a> and get it right there.</p>
<p>Of course it&#8217;s going to be a serious challenge to compete with a simplicity of plain text files.</p>
<p>Looking to participate in SoC 2006<br />
Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: Erakn</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/simplifying-apache-configuration/#comment-24692</link>
		<dc:creator>Erakn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 14:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

we have currently developing a configuration tool for apache. We have a meeting soon with the author of mod_rewrite and mod_ssl to see if he is interested in getting involved. Our challenge is to get a full functional but easy UI which is not easy at all.

erkan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>we have currently developing a configuration tool for apache. We have a meeting soon with the author of mod_rewrite and mod_ssl to see if he is interested in getting involved. Our challenge is to get a full functional but easy UI which is not easy at all.</p>
<p>erkan</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/simplifying-apache-configuration/#comment-24479</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 14:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great idea.  I am also a student looking to participate in SoC 2006, and I had a few thoughts about this particular project.

Obviously, the first thing that needs to be done is to identify maybe the top 10 or 20 of these tricky, yet common tasks that people are having trouble with.  I know that using mod_rewrite, for instance, is constantly coming up on webmaster forums, despite the fact that many people are trying to do the exact same thing.  One example is trying to make dynamic applications look static so that they&#039;ll be crawled.  Most of the tasks that come to my mind -- password protecting a directory is another example -- seem pretty simple to handle.

For the writing of configuration files, the application is pretty useless unless it can be accessed remotely.  One could start out by writing a local application in Java/C/C++ and then, to provide a nice user experience, you could implement front-ends in a whole slew of webapp technologies -- PHP comes to mind, but JSP or Perl or anything similar would work, too.  The whole thing could be done in using one of these webapp platforms, but that presupposes that the user has already configured one of them correctly and that seems a bit circular to me :)  Also, having a command-line tool would give developers to write nice GUIs for their favorite OS to serve users running Apache locally.

If something like this were implemented, it would make life a lot easier for professional and amateur webmasters alike, and, in doing so, would be a great way to promote adopting Apache.

Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great idea.  I am also a student looking to participate in SoC 2006, and I had a few thoughts about this particular project.</p>
<p>Obviously, the first thing that needs to be done is to identify maybe the top 10 or 20 of these tricky, yet common tasks that people are having trouble with.  I know that using mod_rewrite, for instance, is constantly coming up on webmaster forums, despite the fact that many people are trying to do the exact same thing.  One example is trying to make dynamic applications look static so that they&#8217;ll be crawled.  Most of the tasks that come to my mind &#8212; password protecting a directory is another example &#8212; seem pretty simple to handle.</p>
<p>For the writing of configuration files, the application is pretty useless unless it can be accessed remotely.  One could start out by writing a local application in Java/C/C++ and then, to provide a nice user experience, you could implement front-ends in a whole slew of webapp technologies &#8212; PHP comes to mind, but JSP or Perl or anything similar would work, too.  The whole thing could be done in using one of these webapp platforms, but that presupposes that the user has already configured one of them correctly and that seems a bit circular to me <img src='http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Also, having a command-line tool would give developers to write nice GUIs for their favorite OS to serve users running Apache locally.</p>
<p>If something like this were implemented, it would make life a lot easier for professional and amateur webmasters alike, and, in doing so, would be a great way to promote adopting Apache.</p>
<p>Dan</p>
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		<title>By: Sumit</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/simplifying-apache-configuration/#comment-23996</link>
		<dc:creator>Sumit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 18:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A tool for easy conf(s) is just what the *rest of the* world needs. Not everyone is technical but most can write articles, put up sites to place their ideas, family picture galleries, etc. Lot of content do come from the *normal* people who dont live and breathe .htaccess.
I am a student myself and also participating in SoC 2006, and hope to work on this. I have used Apache for about 2 years but never felt very troubled with conf. phpMyAdmin surely is helpful and something similar for Apache is beautiful. Most tech guys will not understand the need for this but whenever you think that there are more college professors writing articles, or housewives writing stories or young guys making picture galleries; you will understand that these are *web content* yet the producers are not that tech savvy. So a tool must exist to help them.
I surely look forward to working on something similar in SoC 2006.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A tool for easy conf(s) is just what the *rest of the* world needs. Not everyone is technical but most can write articles, put up sites to place their ideas, family picture galleries, etc. Lot of content do come from the *normal* people who dont live and breathe .htaccess.<br />
I am a student myself and also participating in SoC 2006, and hope to work on this. I have used Apache for about 2 years but never felt very troubled with conf. phpMyAdmin surely is helpful and something similar for Apache is beautiful. Most tech guys will not understand the need for this but whenever you think that there are more college professors writing articles, or housewives writing stories or young guys making picture galleries; you will understand that these are *web content* yet the producers are not that tech savvy. So a tool must exist to help them.<br />
I surely look forward to working on something similar in SoC 2006.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/simplifying-apache-configuration/#comment-23752</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a little late to the game on this one but I wanted to throw in my support for a .htaccess tool with a friendly UI.

I taught myself (as did most people who are reading this, me thinks) how to use the wonders of htaccess and config files.  It was a bit painful but doable.

Where a htaccess tool would be great is as part of a shared hosting package on the different hosting providers.  It could be set up to give some access to the power of this without completely opening up the guts of the server to someone who may or may not have the wheels to work it safely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little late to the game on this one but I wanted to throw in my support for a .htaccess tool with a friendly UI.</p>
<p>I taught myself (as did most people who are reading this, me thinks) how to use the wonders of htaccess and config files.  It was a bit painful but doable.</p>
<p>Where a htaccess tool would be great is as part of a shared hosting package on the different hosting providers.  It could be set up to give some access to the power of this without completely opening up the guts of the server to someone who may or may not have the wheels to work it safely.</p>
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