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		<title>By: Matt Cutts</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reminder-on-comments-policy/#comment-92581</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Cutts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 02:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lew, I think it&#039;s not a bad suggestion to lock this thread; the discussion is starting to wander now.

Sussie, a few closing points:
- We have written about sneaky redirects in our &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769#quality&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;webmaster guidelines&lt;/a&gt; for years. The specific part is &quot;Don&#039;t employ cloaking or sneaky redirects.&quot; We make our webmaster guidelines available in over 10 different languages, and the guidelines also discuss doorway pages.
- I&#039;ve specifically talked about using javascript pages to whisk users away from doorway pages in the past, e.g.
http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/seo-mistakes-sneaky-javascript/
so your webshop should have known that their pages under Shop-SEO.asp with constructed JavaScript such as
var d1=”win”, d2=”dow.”, d3=”loca”, d4=”tion.”, d5=”replace”, d6=”(’http://www.xxxxxxxxxx.dk/shop/default.asp?ReferrerStr=&amp;SetLng=26′)”;
var i,strurl=”&quot;;
for(i=1;i&lt;=6;i++)
{
strurl += eval(”d”+i);
}
eval(strurl);
was over the line.
- Ultimately, you are responsible for your own site. If a piece of shopping cart code put loads of white text on a white background, you are still responsible for your site. In fact, we&#039;ve taken action on cases like that in the past.
- Nonetheless, people at Google want high-quality sites to do well. Your site has removed the JavaScript redirection, which would help in a reinclusion request.

Finally, I want this to be completely clear: any name-calling in my comments is not welcome and neither is any kind of personal attack. I want everyone to feel welcome to leave constructive comments here, and negative comments make the site less collegial and less productive. Sussie, I believe that I&#039;ve deleted any purely negative comments, but feel free to post to the Google Group if there are remaining comments that you consider untrue.

Okay, I&#039;m going to lock this discussion now..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lew, I think it&#8217;s not a bad suggestion to lock this thread; the discussion is starting to wander now.</p>
<p>Sussie, a few closing points:<br />
- We have written about sneaky redirects in our <a href="http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769#quality" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">webmaster guidelines</a> for years. The specific part is &#8220;Don&#8217;t employ cloaking or sneaky redirects.&#8221; We make our webmaster guidelines available in over 10 different languages, and the guidelines also discuss doorway pages.<br />
- I&#8217;ve specifically talked about using javascript pages to whisk users away from doorway pages in the past, e.g.<br />
<a href="http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/seo-mistakes-sneaky-javascript/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/seo-mistakes-sneaky-javascript/</a><br />
so your webshop should have known that their pages under Shop-SEO.asp with constructed JavaScript such as<br />
var d1=”win”, d2=”dow.”, d3=”loca”, d4=”tion.”, d5=”replace”, d6=”(’http://www.xxxxxxxxxx.dk/shop/default.asp?ReferrerStr=&#038;SetLng=26′)”;<br />
var i,strurl=”&#8221;;<br />
for(i=1;i&lt;=6;i++)<br />
{<br />
strurl += eval(”d”+i);<br />
}<br />
eval(strurl);<br />
was over the line.<br />
- Ultimately, you are responsible for your own site. If a piece of shopping cart code put loads of white text on a white background, you are still responsible for your site. In fact, we&#8217;ve taken action on cases like that in the past.<br />
- Nonetheless, people at Google want high-quality sites to do well. Your site has removed the JavaScript redirection, which would help in a reinclusion request.</p>
<p>Finally, I want this to be completely clear: any name-calling in my comments is not welcome and neither is any kind of personal attack. I want everyone to feel welcome to leave constructive comments here, and negative comments make the site less collegial and less productive. Sussie, I believe that I&#8217;ve deleted any purely negative comments, but feel free to post to the Google Group if there are remaining comments that you consider untrue.</p>
<p>Okay, I&#8217;m going to lock this discussion now..</p>
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		<title>By: Brian M</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reminder-on-comments-policy/#comment-92576</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 01:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - take a few days off for the holidays, and look what happens!

Name calling aside (although Arrogant Matt Cutts is something that will stick in my mind for a long time), why does somebody who screams about their lost SERPs rate a second look? Is that what it takes to get noticed by Google? If I rant and rave on every blog/forum on the planet, will you move my sites into spot #1? I&#039;m a nice person, and my clients are nice people too. So, I think you should give all of us nice people a FREE ride and push all of those other dirtbags down!

Let&#039;s make a patent claim! If you&#039;re nice - you get the #1 spot. If you&#039;re a dirtbag - you get pushed down with the rest of the scum. We could even patent &quot;ScumRank&quot; as the new paradigm.

Sorry, Matt, I know that I&#039;m not a &quot;regular&quot; here, but this is so absurd! I think you are getting the wrong end of the stick here, and I just had to add my 2 cents...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; take a few days off for the holidays, and look what happens!</p>
<p>Name calling aside (although Arrogant Matt Cutts is something that will stick in my mind for a long time), why does somebody who screams about their lost SERPs rate a second look? Is that what it takes to get noticed by Google? If I rant and rave on every blog/forum on the planet, will you move my sites into spot #1? I&#8217;m a nice person, and my clients are nice people too. So, I think you should give all of us nice people a FREE ride and push all of those other dirtbags down!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s make a patent claim! If you&#8217;re nice &#8211; you get the #1 spot. If you&#8217;re a dirtbag &#8211; you get pushed down with the rest of the scum. We could even patent &#8220;ScumRank&#8221; as the new paradigm.</p>
<p>Sorry, Matt, I know that I&#8217;m not a &#8220;regular&#8221; here, but this is so absurd! I think you are getting the wrong end of the stick here, and I just had to add my 2 cents&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Harith</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reminder-on-comments-policy/#comment-92575</link>
		<dc:creator>Harith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 00:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Dear Sussie Lalicata&lt;/b&gt;

I hope you resolve your differences with Google in peaceful friendly way, because I can&#039;t see any reason for not doing so.  Allow me to explain.

I read your posts here on Matt&#039;s blog and on your webshop provider forum:

http://www.dandomain.dk/support/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=697
http://www.dandomain.dk/support/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=699

As you might have noticed, its the &quot;system&quot; of your Webshop provider which isn&#039;t in accordance with Google Webmasters Guidelines, not your furniture webshop.  I understand that they intend to come up with a better system sometime next year.

Until then, you have the choice of either move your shop to another Webshop provider that offer a system which meets Google Webmaster Guidelines, or just stay with your present Webshop provider and accept the current situation. 

And as you wrote correctly on your Webshop provider forum, you aren&#039;t getting the support you deserve from your Webshop provider. In fact its them who should resolve the current issue with Google, not you. 

Furthermore, with all due respect to your &quot;SEO Specialist&quot;, I doubt that he is going to resolve your shop problem through robots.txt . Even if he succeed to get few of your shop front pages indexed, you shall still left with a whole shop that can&#039;t be indexed as it is now.  Btw, the sandbox isn&#039;t a penalty from Google side. Its just a theory.

Please consider moving your shop to another Webshop provider at least until your current Webshop provider comes up with a search engine friendly system.  You will have peace and energy to focus on your business that way. And your new Webshop might rank well as a white hat site on google.dk, who knows  ;-)

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Dear Sussie Lalicata</b></p>
<p>I hope you resolve your differences with Google in peaceful friendly way, because I can&#8217;t see any reason for not doing so.  Allow me to explain.</p>
<p>I read your posts here on Matt&#8217;s blog and on your webshop provider forum:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dandomain.dk/support/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=697" rel="nofollow">http://www.dandomain.dk/support/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=697</a><br />
<a href="http://www.dandomain.dk/support/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=699" rel="nofollow">http://www.dandomain.dk/support/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=699</a></p>
<p>As you might have noticed, its the &#8220;system&#8221; of your Webshop provider which isn&#8217;t in accordance with Google Webmasters Guidelines, not your furniture webshop.  I understand that they intend to come up with a better system sometime next year.</p>
<p>Until then, you have the choice of either move your shop to another Webshop provider that offer a system which meets Google Webmaster Guidelines, or just stay with your present Webshop provider and accept the current situation. </p>
<p>And as you wrote correctly on your Webshop provider forum, you aren&#8217;t getting the support you deserve from your Webshop provider. In fact its them who should resolve the current issue with Google, not you. </p>
<p>Furthermore, with all due respect to your &#8220;SEO Specialist&#8221;, I doubt that he is going to resolve your shop problem through robots.txt . Even if he succeed to get few of your shop front pages indexed, you shall still left with a whole shop that can&#8217;t be indexed as it is now.  Btw, the sandbox isn&#8217;t a penalty from Google side. Its just a theory.</p>
<p>Please consider moving your shop to another Webshop provider at least until your current Webshop provider comes up with a search engine friendly system.  You will have peace and energy to focus on your business that way. And your new Webshop might rank well as a white hat site on google.dk, who knows  <img src='http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Marcel from Reklamebureau ReFocus</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reminder-on-comments-policy/#comment-92573</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcel from Reklamebureau ReFocus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 00:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susie...
I&#039;ve worked with the problem with DD with some of my customers.

You need to make a 301 redirect from root to /shop/default.asp and then unmark all fields under &quot;Søgemaskiner&quot; in konfiguration. Write me at mf@refocus.dk for more help :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susie&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;ve worked with the problem with DD with some of my customers.</p>
<p>You need to make a 301 redirect from root to /shop/default.asp and then unmark all fields under &#8220;Søgemaskiner&#8221; in konfiguration. Write me at <a href="mailto:mf@refocus.dk">mf@refocus.dk</a> for more help <img src='http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reminder-on-comments-policy/#comment-92569</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

After following this thread here and elsewhere for some days now I am amazed at your patience. If this was my blog I would have blocked Sussie many, many days ago. 

For someone whose site is/was using dodgy SEO techniques I am amazed at her persistence - it&#039;s your responsibility Sussie, it&#039;s your site after all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>After following this thread here and elsewhere for some days now I am amazed at your patience. If this was my blog I would have blocked Sussie many, many days ago. </p>
<p>For someone whose site is/was using dodgy SEO techniques I am amazed at her persistence &#8211; it&#8217;s your responsibility Sussie, it&#8217;s your site after all!</p>
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		<title>By: JLH</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reminder-on-comments-policy/#comment-92568</link>
		<dc:creator>JLH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone can threaten legal action and lawyers will do anything for money.  You could bring suit against Mc Donalds because the moon is too bright with enough money and a shady attorney.  Though I don&#039;t think Ray Kroc&#039;s heirs are too worried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone can threaten legal action and lawyers will do anything for money.  You could bring suit against Mc Donalds because the moon is too bright with enough money and a shady attorney.  Though I don&#8217;t think Ray Kroc&#8217;s heirs are too worried.</p>
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		<title>By: Lew</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reminder-on-comments-policy/#comment-92567</link>
		<dc:creator>Lew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anytime people start mentioning giving screen-shots to their lawyers it has gone to far. I would hate for the plug to be pulled on this blog when Matt is trying to do his best to be a liaison to the SEO community.  I have met Matt several times and he is a good guy.  I have been elsewhere over the past 7 years and I don&#039;t participate in a lot of forums because people get away from the real issues to bang their own drum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anytime people start mentioning giving screen-shots to their lawyers it has gone to far. I would hate for the plug to be pulled on this blog when Matt is trying to do his best to be a liaison to the SEO community.  I have met Matt several times and he is a good guy.  I have been elsewhere over the past 7 years and I don&#8217;t participate in a lot of forums because people get away from the real issues to bang their own drum.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Heil</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reminder-on-comments-policy/#comment-92563</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Heil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm. I see a good thread. I&#039;m very sure readers of Matt&#039;s blog might learn a thing or two from this thread. The only thing I might say that should not have been wrote was the name calling of sussie. That was out of line. Out of one hundred posts... seems like it anyhoo, a &quot;very&quot; good thread. I think Matt would agree as well.

If you think some of us are wound too tight, you haven&#039;t been elsewhere before. LOL This thread is extremely mild stuff, but very good stuff.

As Adam said; we may repeat stuff, but it&#039;s repeated over and over because people don&#039;t seem to get it the third or fourth or twelth time it is said. :) Maybe if it&#039;s repeated enough times, some stuff just may sink in...... maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm. I see a good thread. I&#8217;m very sure readers of Matt&#8217;s blog might learn a thing or two from this thread. The only thing I might say that should not have been wrote was the name calling of sussie. That was out of line. Out of one hundred posts&#8230; seems like it anyhoo, a &#8220;very&#8221; good thread. I think Matt would agree as well.</p>
<p>If you think some of us are wound too tight, you haven&#8217;t been elsewhere before. LOL This thread is extremely mild stuff, but very good stuff.</p>
<p>As Adam said; we may repeat stuff, but it&#8217;s repeated over and over because people don&#8217;t seem to get it the third or fourth or twelth time it is said. <img src='http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Maybe if it&#8217;s repeated enough times, some stuff just may sink in&#8230;&#8230; maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Lew</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reminder-on-comments-policy/#comment-92557</link>
		<dc:creator>Lew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 19:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,
          May I suggest closing this thread?  After coming back today and seeing some of the posts, it seems to me that unfortunately some people are wound way to tight, and I&#039;d hate to see a few people ruin it for the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,<br />
          May I suggest closing this thread?  After coming back today and seeing some of the posts, it seems to me that unfortunately some people are wound way to tight, and I&#8217;d hate to see a few people ruin it for the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: JLH</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reminder-on-comments-policy/#comment-92555</link>
		<dc:creator>JLH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 19:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny Sullivan wrote, &quot;step it up to 24/7/365&quot;

Oh sure, that&#039;s just great, just feel free to go ahead and screw us poor webmasters every leap year! I demand Larry and Sergey give me their cell phone numbers in case I need them on 2/29/08 if Matt&#039;s not going to step up to the plate and be available.

Matt, Please make my sites #1 for every word on them until then.  Thanks for your understanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny Sullivan wrote, &#8220;step it up to 24/7/365&#8243;</p>
<p>Oh sure, that&#8217;s just great, just feel free to go ahead and screw us poor webmasters every leap year! I demand Larry and Sergey give me their cell phone numbers in case I need them on 2/29/08 if Matt&#8217;s not going to step up to the plate and be available.</p>
<p>Matt, Please make my sites #1 for every word on them until then.  Thanks for your understanding.</p>
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