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		<title>By: Mani</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reinclusion-request-howto/#comment-386579</link>
		<dc:creator>Mani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know the reasons behind not alerting via webmaster tools that a site is under penalty, and they make perfect sense, however do you think there is value to be had in (slightly) more tailored responses to the reinclusion form? The reason I mention this is simply there&#039;s no way of telling for sure whether you had a penalty and whether what you did fixed it. This can leave webmasters living in fear of making the slightest change and being penalised for it. Even a simple response would help - something like: a) Yes, you were penalised and now you&#039;re not, b) You were penalised and you still are, or c) You&#039;re not penalised, don&#039;t worry.

Also, does anyone know how long after reinclusion the site will be back at its original ranking?

Mani</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the reasons behind not alerting via webmaster tools that a site is under penalty, and they make perfect sense, however do you think there is value to be had in (slightly) more tailored responses to the reinclusion form? The reason I mention this is simply there&#8217;s no way of telling for sure whether you had a penalty and whether what you did fixed it. This can leave webmasters living in fear of making the slightest change and being penalised for it. Even a simple response would help &#8211; something like: a) Yes, you were penalised and now you&#8217;re not, b) You were penalised and you still are, or c) You&#8217;re not penalised, don&#8217;t worry.</p>
<p>Also, does anyone know how long after reinclusion the site will be back at its original ranking?</p>
<p>Mani</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reinclusion-request-howto/#comment-377474</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re in the midst of a reconsideration request. 

What&#039;s pro forma after receiving of an inclusion request... any acknowledgement by Google of the request? if so, within a xx weeks?

How would someone know for certain that the reinclusion request has been received? 

Any suggestions for protocol without being overbearing, but appropriately concerned?

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re in the midst of a reconsideration request. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s pro forma after receiving of an inclusion request&#8230; any acknowledgement by Google of the request? if so, within a xx weeks?</p>
<p>How would someone know for certain that the reinclusion request has been received? </p>
<p>Any suggestions for protocol without being overbearing, but appropriately concerned?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: jatropha, jatropha seed</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reinclusion-request-howto/#comment-373837</link>
		<dc:creator>jatropha, jatropha seed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get a lot of comment spam on my sites. Is there a way to report these link spammers to Google so they can be considered for a spam penalty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get a lot of comment spam on my sites. Is there a way to report these link spammers to Google so they can be considered for a spam penalty?</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan McClements</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reinclusion-request-howto/#comment-165605</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan McClements</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;301s from an old site to a new site shouldn’t cause any problem, so I wouldn’t use a reinclusion request for that.&quot;

301s from my old site to my new site have worked fine for google &#039;web&#039; results, but have caused huge problems with Google &#039;Image Search&#039; traffic which accounted for just over 50% of my total traffic.

(I reckon I&#039;ll lose over $1000 in Adsense income at this rate).

I know this is not the perfect place to post this question, but I have tried everywhere else, and Adsense support no longer respond to emails it seems...

Do I just have to wait 3 or 4 months for my images to be re-included in the image search results or is there *anything* I can do to speed this up?

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;301s from an old site to a new site shouldn’t cause any problem, so I wouldn’t use a reinclusion request for that.&#8221;</p>
<p>301s from my old site to my new site have worked fine for google &#8216;web&#8217; results, but have caused huge problems with Google &#8216;Image Search&#8217; traffic which accounted for just over 50% of my total traffic.</p>
<p>(I reckon I&#8217;ll lose over $1000 in Adsense income at this rate).</p>
<p>I know this is not the perfect place to post this question, but I have tried everywhere else, and Adsense support no longer respond to emails it seems&#8230;</p>
<p>Do I just have to wait 3 or 4 months for my images to be re-included in the image search results or is there *anything* I can do to speed this up?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Shields</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reinclusion-request-howto/#comment-134243</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since my last post on September 14th, many events have taken place.  On September 18th, my site returned to its usual place on the first page for its prime search phrase.  Then, on September 25th, my site was again relegated to its penalized position in the 400&#039;s.  It&#039;s been there since that date.

Since then I&#039;ve come across information that Google is now detecting purchased links algorithmically.  Now I know that I don&#039;t buy or sell links, but what if it had happened that it algorithmically appeared that I really was?

Time to analyze and check out all my old reciprocal links which had not been loojed at since 2006.  Turns out that most were not linking to me any longer.  Removed those.  But a few of the old non-linking sites had expired and been purchased by others.  This could well appear to Googlebot that I was in fact selling links.  

I will be reviewing the old reciprocal links on a more regular basis.  I have not been doing reciprocal links at all since early in 2006.

One interesting thing.  Since my last post, I have received 3 offers to buy links on my site.  Hmmm????

I hope this information helps others.  Have enjoyed you videos on youtube.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since my last post on September 14th, many events have taken place.  On September 18th, my site returned to its usual place on the first page for its prime search phrase.  Then, on September 25th, my site was again relegated to its penalized position in the 400&#8217;s.  It&#8217;s been there since that date.</p>
<p>Since then I&#8217;ve come across information that Google is now detecting purchased links algorithmically.  Now I know that I don&#8217;t buy or sell links, but what if it had happened that it algorithmically appeared that I really was?</p>
<p>Time to analyze and check out all my old reciprocal links which had not been loojed at since 2006.  Turns out that most were not linking to me any longer.  Removed those.  But a few of the old non-linking sites had expired and been purchased by others.  This could well appear to Googlebot that I was in fact selling links.  </p>
<p>I will be reviewing the old reciprocal links on a more regular basis.  I have not been doing reciprocal links at all since early in 2006.</p>
<p>One interesting thing.  Since my last post, I have received 3 offers to buy links on my site.  Hmmm????</p>
<p>I hope this information helps others.  Have enjoyed you videos on youtube.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Shields</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reinclusion-request-howto/#comment-133491</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matt,
Last month my site went from #2 to #400 for my main search phrase &quot;brantford web designer.  At first I thought that the penalty was because I had provided 4 examples where I had placed 4 clients on the first page of Google SERPs.  I removed these examples, and sent in a reinclusion request.

Since then I have had some second thoughts about that as a penalty cause.  Since I use ONLY white hat SEO techniques, my &#039;bragging&#039; would be a shining example of what is possible by staying within the guidelines to others who might feel the need to go over to the dark side.  So as of this minute, I doubt very much that bragging about what can be achieved with White Hat techniques has caused my problem.

It has also occurred to me that since I saw the video about you and &quot;paying for links&quot; that I may be penalized for paying for links; although it is over 3 years since I have paid for any link, and then only for inclusion in well known directories.

However the facts of the matter are that although Google can detect a link from a pay-for-link site, and can also can detect the site that this link points to, there is no way that Google can detect who is paying for the link.  In short, I strongly suspect that a competitor has paid for a link pointing to my site.  Since the payor of the transaction is invisible, this could be a wide-spread practice amongst the Blacked Hatted SEOs who will stoop to almost any means to maintain their ranking.

I reaffirm that I use only White Hat techniques, and follow the Google Webmaster Guidelines to the best of my ability.

One further comment.  I realize that you as an individual do not have time to comment on all postings, but I firmly believe that as a Company, Google can surely afford to do much more to explain their penalties and banning.  In view of the Billions of Google profits, surely a couple of million can be spent on Public Relations !!

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matt,<br />
Last month my site went from #2 to #400 for my main search phrase &#8220;brantford web designer.  At first I thought that the penalty was because I had provided 4 examples where I had placed 4 clients on the first page of Google SERPs.  I removed these examples, and sent in a reinclusion request.</p>
<p>Since then I have had some second thoughts about that as a penalty cause.  Since I use ONLY white hat SEO techniques, my &#8216;bragging&#8217; would be a shining example of what is possible by staying within the guidelines to others who might feel the need to go over to the dark side.  So as of this minute, I doubt very much that bragging about what can be achieved with White Hat techniques has caused my problem.</p>
<p>It has also occurred to me that since I saw the video about you and &#8220;paying for links&#8221; that I may be penalized for paying for links; although it is over 3 years since I have paid for any link, and then only for inclusion in well known directories.</p>
<p>However the facts of the matter are that although Google can detect a link from a pay-for-link site, and can also can detect the site that this link points to, there is no way that Google can detect who is paying for the link.  In short, I strongly suspect that a competitor has paid for a link pointing to my site.  Since the payor of the transaction is invisible, this could be a wide-spread practice amongst the Blacked Hatted SEOs who will stoop to almost any means to maintain their ranking.</p>
<p>I reaffirm that I use only White Hat techniques, and follow the Google Webmaster Guidelines to the best of my ability.</p>
<p>One further comment.  I realize that you as an individual do not have time to comment on all postings, but I firmly believe that as a Company, Google can surely afford to do much more to explain their penalties and banning.  In view of the Billions of Google profits, surely a couple of million can be spent on Public Relations !!</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Kompota</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reinclusion-request-howto/#comment-131809</link>
		<dc:creator>Kompota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As SergeyK said: why do not you apply techniques for SERP-penalties to be automatically removed after SE-spam has been removed and violation issues have been resolved ? Instead, one has to write a reconsideration request, which takes a while to be reviewed. And that is understandable since there are billions of pages in Google index, but your staff is limited. 

As example, the most popular search engine in Russia and former Soviet Union - Yandex (market share about 60%) already applies such techniques. I experienced it in my case: on one of my sites I made a spammy and terrible looking &quot;links&quot; garbage page with about 1000 of text backlinks and banners to directories (as an exchange for a link). As a result my site was immediately penalized by Yandex and dropped down in SERP-s (but not banned from index). Just a couple of days after removing the spam &quot;links&quot; page, site returned to normal positions and I didn&#039;t have to write a reconsideration request or anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As SergeyK said: why do not you apply techniques for SERP-penalties to be automatically removed after SE-spam has been removed and violation issues have been resolved ? Instead, one has to write a reconsideration request, which takes a while to be reviewed. And that is understandable since there are billions of pages in Google index, but your staff is limited. </p>
<p>As example, the most popular search engine in Russia and former Soviet Union &#8211; Yandex (market share about 60%) already applies such techniques. I experienced it in my case: on one of my sites I made a spammy and terrible looking &#8220;links&#8221; garbage page with about 1000 of text backlinks and banners to directories (as an exchange for a link). As a result my site was immediately penalized by Yandex and dropped down in SERP-s (but not banned from index). Just a couple of days after removing the spam &#8220;links&#8221; page, site returned to normal positions and I didn&#8217;t have to write a reconsideration request or anything.</p>
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		<title>By: TaLLie</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reinclusion-request-howto/#comment-130531</link>
		<dc:creator>TaLLie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matt...

I was searching the big &quot;G&quot; when i stumpled on this Blog. Somewhere i read that when a major change to a website happened it can trigger Googles Algorithm to exlude most of the pages on a site for the Google index. I hope someone can tell me more about it.

Why i want to know the answer ? 

Well.... Last April (2008) we completely revamped our site ( lookup dot nl ) from old school programming to 100 percent w3c.org xhtml 1.0 strict. U would say that is a good thing not ?  Quess not... Our site dropped immediately after this from the Google rankings and still the site has not recovered from this. We almost at a 5 years low.

After putting the rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; tag on the very few commercial outbound links we had and make all title tags very short but most descriptive i dont think there is nothing more we can do to follow Google Webmasters Guidelines.

After submitting a &quot;reconsideration&quot; :P request to Google Netherlands they dont respond.

Somewhere in your Blog i saw u mentioning Googles efforts to communicate with webmasters. It was on one of your 2005-2006 blogs i think. Still.... its half way 2008 and the only thing i notice is no communication at all :/

Ofcourse.. i think its a great thing that google try to improve the index everytime and their effort to &quot;catch&quot; all Bad websites that keep stuffing Google with keywords. The better for us webmasters that working hard everyday on our sites.

However... it is hard to swollow for me that i am running my website since 2000, working almost full-time on it and was probably the first one in my country that supported Google by putting its &quot;old school&quot; search bar on our site (lol...), when Google was still a &quot;dwarf&quot; in searchengine country. Now Google acts if myself and my website dont excist at all.

imagine how i, but particular, all those other webmasters like me, MUST FEEL ??? Confused for sure.

Sorry for my bad english and maybe the offtopic post.
Still hoping on any comment on this post as i will check it on a regular base.

Patrick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matt&#8230;</p>
<p>I was searching the big &#8220;G&#8221; when i stumpled on this Blog. Somewhere i read that when a major change to a website happened it can trigger Googles Algorithm to exlude most of the pages on a site for the Google index. I hope someone can tell me more about it.</p>
<p>Why i want to know the answer ? </p>
<p>Well&#8230;. Last April (2008) we completely revamped our site ( lookup dot nl ) from old school programming to 100 percent w3c.org xhtml 1.0 strict. U would say that is a good thing not ?  Quess not&#8230; Our site dropped immediately after this from the Google rankings and still the site has not recovered from this. We almost at a 5 years low.</p>
<p>After putting the rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221; tag on the very few commercial outbound links we had and make all title tags very short but most descriptive i dont think there is nothing more we can do to follow Google Webmasters Guidelines.</p>
<p>After submitting a &#8220;reconsideration&#8221; <img src='http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  request to Google Netherlands they dont respond.</p>
<p>Somewhere in your Blog i saw u mentioning Googles efforts to communicate with webmasters. It was on one of your 2005-2006 blogs i think. Still&#8230;. its half way 2008 and the only thing i notice is no communication at all :/</p>
<p>Ofcourse.. i think its a great thing that google try to improve the index everytime and their effort to &#8220;catch&#8221; all Bad websites that keep stuffing Google with keywords. The better for us webmasters that working hard everyday on our sites.</p>
<p>However&#8230; it is hard to swollow for me that i am running my website since 2000, working almost full-time on it and was probably the first one in my country that supported Google by putting its &#8220;old school&#8221; search bar on our site (lol&#8230;), when Google was still a &#8220;dwarf&#8221; in searchengine country. Now Google acts if myself and my website dont excist at all.</p>
<p>imagine how i, but particular, all those other webmasters like me, MUST FEEL ??? Confused for sure.</p>
<p>Sorry for my bad english and maybe the offtopic post.<br />
Still hoping on any comment on this post as i will check it on a regular base.</p>
<p>Patrick</p>
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		<title>By: SergeyK</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reinclusion-request-howto/#comment-130144</link>
		<dc:creator>SergeyK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just writing an article about google filters in russian and want to ask: Matt, why google don&#039;t work out a solution not to apply some filters to sites, which removed all spam or black seo methods from their pages in an automatic way.
Not loge ago our sites were hacked and they added some code to our pages. So google filtered us and put a link in serp near our sites. (The site contain some harmful code... or something like that).
Only after we asked for check they were &quot;discharged&quot;.  I still can&#039;t understand why Google can&#039;t do it in an automatic way...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just writing an article about google filters in russian and want to ask: Matt, why google don&#8217;t work out a solution not to apply some filters to sites, which removed all spam or black seo methods from their pages in an automatic way.<br />
Not loge ago our sites were hacked and they added some code to our pages. So google filtered us and put a link in serp near our sites. (The site contain some harmful code&#8230; or something like that).<br />
Only after we asked for check they were &#8220;discharged&#8221;.  I still can&#8217;t understand why Google can&#8217;t do it in an automatic way&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Bartow</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/reinclusion-request-howto/#comment-129963</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Bartow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if you think you are getting penalized, but have done nothing wrong?  I know it sounds bad, but I have a simple site that use to rank first for a long tail term, now is no where to be seen.  The business still ranks first in the local listing since the term includes the town name.

I submitted a re-inclusion request stating what I thought of what the issue was.  I have quite a few web sites that have &quot;Site Designed by...&quot; on them.  These aren&#039;t paid links, but it&#039;s the only thing I can think of that may be causing the problem.

Is there anyone to turn to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if you think you are getting penalized, but have done nothing wrong?  I know it sounds bad, but I have a simple site that use to rank first for a long tail term, now is no where to be seen.  The business still ranks first in the local listing since the term includes the town name.</p>
<p>I submitted a re-inclusion request stating what I thought of what the issue was.  I have quite a few web sites that have &#8220;Site Designed by&#8230;&#8221; on them.  These aren&#8217;t paid links, but it&#8217;s the only thing I can think of that may be causing the problem.</p>
<p>Is there anyone to turn to?</p>
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