Comments on: Page view metrics? Bah, humbug! http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/ neat fun stuff Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:30:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sneezy Melonhttp://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-118655 Sneezy Melon Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:03:48 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-118655 ^ I dont think AJAX causes any problem to the GoogleBot. I've seen lots of AJAX pages which are indexed perfectly ^
I dont think AJAX causes any problem to the GoogleBot. I’ve seen lots of AJAX pages which are indexed perfectly

]]> By: Apoorv Khatrejahttp://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-118223 Apoorv Khatreja Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:32:54 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-118223 I was wondering what heavy AJAX pages would do the GoogleBot. Google does index maps from Google Maps, doesn't it? I was wondering what heavy AJAX pages would do the GoogleBot. Google does index maps from Google Maps, doesn’t it?

]]> By: SEO Expert Dubaihttp://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-113348 SEO Expert Dubai Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:15:31 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-113348 Hi Matt nice post you have got in here,Johny, i totally agree with you ajax is for specific type of websites and web developers who are using ajax technology normally don't care about the page views and so, all what they care about is to give the web visitors a better experience's using the website and come again and again and it's not limited. Hi Matt nice post you have got in here,

Johny, i totally agree with you ajax is for specific type of websites and web developers who are using ajax technology normally don’t care about the page views and so, all what they care about is to give the web visitors a better experience’s using the website and come again and again and it’s not limited.

]]> By: Johnyhttp://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-104593 Johny Tue, 15 May 2007 18:57:53 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-104593 Alex, i checked ur analytics platform, i doubt people will put the javascript everytime.. ajax isnt the solution for cms, its good for emails, chat, maps but i find it's usage very limited Alex, i checked ur analytics platform, i doubt people will put the javascript everytime.. ajax isnt the solution for cms, its good for emails, chat, maps but i find it’s usage very limited

]]> By: Alexhttp://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-101227 Alex Sun, 08 Apr 2007 10:03:04 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-101227 I’m working on a new analytics platform explicitly designed for Ajax applications - http://www.ajaxmetrics.com - and I’d love to hear what you have to say about it. I’m working on a new analytics platform explicitly designed for Ajax applications – http://www.ajaxmetrics.com – and I’d love to hear what you have to say about it.

]]> By: edhttp://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-100552 ed Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:18:18 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-100552 Great Info Matt! In Uk I see more Yahoo adverts on tv than google. Maybe google could market there engine over europe more. Great Info Matt! In Uk I see more Yahoo adverts on tv than google. Maybe google could market there engine over europe more.

]]> By: Heather Paquinashttp://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-99765 Heather Paquinas Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:20:24 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-99765 Here is the solution:http://www.ragepank.com/articles/45/ajax-is-here/to quote: <blockquote> This fix is actually quite straightforward. If you are interested in getting your site indexed properly by search engines, then it has to be crawlable with javascript off. So all hyperlinks on this site are static-looking, and crawler friendly. Next, I run a piece of javascript after the page has loaded which runs through the page and converts all the links to the javascript based links. If you don't have javascript, then the links won't get converted, which is exactly what we want. Because the javascript links return the same content as the regular links, this can't be considered black-hat SEO. </blockquote> Here is the solution:

http://www.ragepank.com/articles/45/ajax-is-here/

to quote:

This fix is actually quite straightforward. If you are interested in getting your site indexed properly by search engines, then it has to be crawlable with javascript off. So all hyperlinks on this site are static-looking, and crawler friendly.
Next, I run a piece of javascript after the page has loaded which runs through the page and converts all the links to the javascript based links.
If you don’t have javascript, then the links won’t get converted, which is exactly what we want. Because the javascript links return the same content as the regular links, this can’t be considered black-hat SEO.

]]> By: Rose Waterhttp://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-94067 Rose Water Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:46:26 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-94067 SEO is good for users; what's good for users will keep them at your site, which could create more linking opportunities like google maps has a "link to this map" on every map SEO is good for users; what’s good for users will keep them at your site, which could create more linking opportunities like google maps has a “link to this map” on every map

]]> By: Jeffhttp://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-92664 Jeff Sat, 30 Dec 2006 00:44:38 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-92664 I am very curios about this "problem" with metrics. The largest problem I see in this area is that Ajax developers are not willing to bend to standards. Dont take offense just yet... Imagine if you will that you have an AJax application in dir /home/web/index.wtver now the Ajax requests presumably have to go somewhere on your server since Ajax is a domain restricted protocol. Therefor, creating a driectory called /home/web/ajax_docs/ should allow the "spiders" of the search engines to see your pages from your sitemap.xml file and thus get you good results, as well as accurately measuring your metrics to individual 'locations' in your site. I know I know... everyone is screaming right now "yea, but what about when a user clicks that link from the search result?" ok fine, I'll admit, that can be as awkward as walking into a mall wearing only a towel. So at the top of all of you Ajax content, you put a javascript redirect to your "Home Page" plus args to redirect the user to the correct place, via Ajax in your site. The spiders cant read JS, and your users will never know the difference. There are standards, and we need to recognize them and not get so lofty as to assume we are above them. I think this idea would work. Comments welcome. I am very curios about this “problem” with metrics. The largest problem I see in this area is that Ajax developers are not willing to bend to standards. Dont take offense just yet… Imagine if you will that you have an AJax application in dir /home/web/index.wtver now the Ajax requests presumably have to go somewhere on your server since Ajax is a domain restricted protocol. Therefor, creating a driectory called /home/web/ajax_docs/ should allow the “spiders” of the search engines to see your pages from your sitemap.xml file and thus get you good results, as well as accurately measuring your metrics to individual ‘locations’ in your site. I know I know… everyone is screaming right now “yea, but what about when a user clicks that link from the search result?” ok fine, I’ll admit, that can be as awkward as walking into a mall wearing only a towel. So at the top of all of you Ajax content, you put a javascript redirect to your “Home Page” plus args to redirect the user to the correct place, via Ajax in your site. The spiders cant read JS, and your users will never know the difference. There are standards, and we need to recognize them and not get so lofty as to assume we are above them. I think this idea would work. Comments welcome.

]]> By: Jake Matthewshttp://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-92635 Jake Matthews Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:15:27 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/page-view-metrics-bah-humbug/#comment-92635 Matt,Great to see you coming to Yahoo's defense - eve if for a moment. ;-)At the end of the day, I believe that the AJAX change on Yahoo Mail goes to providing a better product - much better. As such, who then really cares about page views? This is a bit subjective, but not totally - it's just better and people are using it because it's a better product.And specifically with mail - Yahoo will know how they're doing b/c the have the data on mail usage - and new sign-ups.Thanks for another great post. Matt,

Great to see you coming to Yahoo’s defense – eve if for a moment. ;-)

At the end of the day, I believe that the AJAX change on Yahoo Mail goes to providing a better product – much better. As such, who then really cares about page views? This is a bit subjective, but not totally – it’s just better and people are using it because it’s a better product.

And specifically with mail – Yahoo will know how they’re doing b/c the have the data on mail usage – and new sign-ups.

Thanks for another great post.

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