Comments on: More about generic TLDs in (say) UK results http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/more-about-generic-tlds-in-say-uk-results/ neat fun stuff Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:47:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: UK Spam Reporter http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/more-about-generic-tlds-in-say-uk-results/#comment-435943 UK Spam Reporter Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:51:58 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=2961#comment-435943 Matt, here is just one example of how Google UKs search results are manipulated, you will observe that substantially the same content is repeated throughout the sites, all the sites link to each other, have the same phone number, address and even the same logos* In addition all the sites are hosted on the same IP and registered to the same individual* Yet they all appear high in Google UKs search results for the related keywords! spasandthings*co*uk atmspasandthings*co*uk phoenixspas*co*uk catalinaspas-southwales*co*uk horizonhottubs*co*uk hottubsandthings*co*uk freeflowspas*co*uk spaandhottubcovers*co*uk spaandhottubparts*co*uk spahottub*co*uk aquasafe*org*uk aquawarm*eu aquawarmswimmingpoolcover*co*uk swimmingpoolcover*org*uk swimmingpoolsandthings*co*uk poolcoversandthings*co*uk poolsandthings*co*uk saunasandthings*co*uk saunasandthings*com logcabinsandthings*co*uk a-t-m*org*uk atmonlinemedia*co*uk andrewswebservices*co*uk candawebdesigns*co*uk 1ststudio*co*uk atmelectricalandleisure*co*uk all-electrical-services*co*uk homeleisurevillage*co*uk thishouseisforsale*co*uk thisiscaerphilly*net thisiscardiff*net thisiswales*net softplaymanufacturers*co*uk yourhomeforsale*co*uk homesandhousesforsale*co*uk disinfectantmats*co*uk IP : 82*165*91*10 Registrant: thisis*net, Andrew Jones Registrant Address: **** CF83 8GF and **** CF82 7FL Why doesnt Google penalize webmasters that have substantially the same content accross multiple interlinking sites? its blatantly outside Googles webmaster guidelines and makes a mockery of the search results produced! Surely the duplicated sites should be filtered out or even more appropriately in this example penalized with the interlinking pages devalued also? The general consensus on the google webmaster forum is that spam reports are never actually read by the search quality team? Question: Would it not be a good idea for Google UK Search Algo to lower the rankings of websites that have not had their actual physical address verified by Google Local BC? Matt, here is just one example of how Google UKs search results are manipulated, you will observe that substantially the same content is repeated throughout the sites, all the sites link to each other, have the same phone number, address and even the same logos* In addition all the sites are hosted on the same IP and registered to the same individual* Yet they all appear high in Google UKs search results for the related keywords!

spasandthings*co*uk atmspasandthings*co*uk phoenixspas*co*uk catalinaspas-southwales*co*uk horizonhottubs*co*uk hottubsandthings*co*uk freeflowspas*co*uk spaandhottubcovers*co*uk spaandhottubparts*co*uk spahottub*co*uk
aquasafe*org*uk aquawarm*eu aquawarmswimmingpoolcover*co*uk swimmingpoolcover*org*uk swimmingpoolsandthings*co*uk
poolcoversandthings*co*uk poolsandthings*co*uk saunasandthings*co*uk saunasandthings*com logcabinsandthings*co*uk a-t-m*org*uk atmonlinemedia*co*uk andrewswebservices*co*uk candawebdesigns*co*uk 1ststudio*co*uk atmelectricalandleisure*co*uk all-electrical-services*co*uk homeleisurevillage*co*uk thishouseisforsale*co*uk thisiscaerphilly*net thisiscardiff*net
thisiswales*net softplaymanufacturers*co*uk yourhomeforsale*co*uk homesandhousesforsale*co*uk disinfectantmats*co*uk

IP : 82*165*91*10 Registrant: thisis*net, Andrew Jones Registrant Address: **** CF83 8GF and **** CF82 7FL

Why doesnt Google penalize webmasters that have substantially the same content accross multiple interlinking sites? its blatantly outside Googles webmaster guidelines and makes a mockery of the search results produced!

Surely the duplicated sites should be filtered out or even more appropriately in this example penalized with the interlinking pages devalued also?

The general consensus on the google webmaster forum is that spam reports are never actually read by the search quality team?

Question: Would it not be a good idea for Google UK Search Algo to lower the rankings of websites that have not had their actual physical address verified by Google Local BC?

]]> By: Neil http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/more-about-generic-tlds-in-say-uk-results/#comment-424384 Neil Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:17:19 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=2961#comment-424384 How about this http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=logitech+g15+deals&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq= - which is for 'logitech g15 deals' (without the quotes). In 5th postion is an Australian site, in 6th one with a Californian domain name, in 9th and 10th two more sites which are in dollars, so I assume American. I'm in Britain, so why is so difficult for Google to work out I am not going to want to buy my keyboard from Australia or the USA. You would think the dollars all over the pages, in two cases country specific domain names and no doubt hosting in their own countries that these sites are about as much use as a chocolate teapot for my query. Perhaps this is yet another example of Google trying to provide useless organic results in the desperate hope users will click their ads, pathetic. How about this http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=logitech+g15+deals&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq= – which is for ‘logitech g15 deals’ (without the quotes).

In 5th postion is an Australian site, in 6th one with a Californian domain name, in 9th and 10th two more sites which are in dollars, so I assume American. I’m in Britain, so why is so difficult for Google to work out I am not going to want to buy my keyboard from Australia or the USA.

You would think the dollars all over the pages, in two cases country specific domain names and no doubt hosting in their own countries that these sites are about as much use as a chocolate teapot for my query.

Perhaps this is yet another example of Google trying to provide useless organic results in the desperate hope users will click their ads, pathetic.

]]> By: Professional Adwords Management http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/more-about-generic-tlds-in-say-uk-results/#comment-423668 Professional Adwords Management Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:56:36 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=2961#comment-423668 This whole country domain issue is too confusing. I wonder why Google just doesn't leave it up to the searcher to specify whether THEY want to see results only from specific countries and/or country domains? What if you're going to travel to another country and you're searching ahead of time? All it would take would be a drop down selection box on the Google home page. This whole country domain issue is too confusing. I wonder why Google just doesn’t leave it up to the searcher to specify whether THEY want to see results only from specific countries and/or country domains? What if you’re going to travel to another country and you’re searching ahead of time? All it would take would be a drop down selection box on the Google home page.

]]> By: Ray Amsterdam http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/more-about-generic-tlds-in-say-uk-results/#comment-423636 Ray Amsterdam Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:05:20 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=2961#comment-423636 Is this bizarre in reverse? I have a .com hosted on a US server. When searching from Google UK with "web" selected, the site is on the first page (7th) when using the term "myopic macular degeneration". When searching on the <b>same</b> term with "pages from UK" selected, the site is not ranked ... or so far back that I can't even find it! Is this bizarre in reverse?

I have a .com hosted on a US server. When searching from Google UK with “web” selected, the site is on the first page (7th) when using the term “myopic macular degeneration”. When searching on the same term with “pages from UK” selected, the site is not ranked … or so far back that I can’t even find it!

]]> By: Roland http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/more-about-generic-tlds-in-say-uk-results/#comment-422946 Roland Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:04:28 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=2961#comment-422946 Anyone who works in the internet biz should know the diference betweek country and generic domains. Sounds like most of you need webmaster 101. My results are now BOOMING in UK!!! muhahahaha Roland of Poland Anyone who works in the internet biz should know the diference betweek country and generic domains. Sounds like most of you need webmaster 101. My results are now BOOMING in UK!!! muhahahaha

Roland of Poland

]]> By: Alan http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/more-about-generic-tlds-in-say-uk-results/#comment-406395 Alan Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:22:23 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=2961#comment-406395 Try this one : http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=chartered+accountant+in+windermere&btnG=Search&meta=cr%3DcountryUK|countryGB&aq=f&oq= i.e. "chartered accountant in windermere" with "pages from the uk". The top organic result is "windermere.ca" and two more in the top five are US sites. This is bonkers, I'm afraid. When are you going to admit you've boobed? Try this one :
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=chartered+accountant+in+windermere&btnG=Search&meta=cr%3DcountryUK|countryGB&aq=f&oq=

i.e. “chartered accountant in windermere” with “pages from the uk”.

The top organic result is “windermere.ca” and two more in the top five are US sites.

This is bonkers, I’m afraid. When are you going to admit you’ve boobed?

]]> By: utisht http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/more-about-generic-tlds-in-say-uk-results/#comment-403480 utisht Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:43:09 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=2961#comment-403480 If you start targeting Geo wise then domain sellers will be more happy. Because many sites who serve many nations, then they have to book the domains like, co.uk, co.in, com.au, etc., I think Google should come out with proper reasoning or force website owners to register or opt for geo specification. Or Google should provide those targeting multi nations a simple meta tag to include on the web page, to appear or different country specific search engines. If you start targeting Geo wise then domain sellers will be more happy. Because many sites who serve many nations, then they have to book the domains like, co.uk, co.in, com.au, etc., I think Google should come out with proper reasoning or force website owners to register or opt for geo specification. Or Google should provide those targeting multi nations a simple meta tag to include on the web page, to appear or different country specific search engines.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/more-about-generic-tlds-in-say-uk-results/#comment-397603 Aaron Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:10:38 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=2961#comment-397603 Hey there and thanks for the post but this .com tweak appears more to be a UK SERP problem. I'm all for allowing UK .com sites to perform in the UK SERP but we're seeing US .com sites entering the index. It appears on lending more weight to UK .com's, US/Canadian and Irish sites have slipped in. After all, there are a lot of powerful sites in industries common to all these countries (and therefore search terms) - make one slip with non-UK TLDs getting a fraction more power in the UK results and you get, well, this situation. I've taken onboard everything Google's ever said about relevancy being key and this seems to throw in the face of it. I told my employers that we should focus on one market; the UK. We host there, we spend our off and online marketing spend there and now for one big term ('online casino') we've gone from 5th to 132nd in two weeks. Needless to say my employers are going crazy. Top 10 for 'online casino'...3 are hosted in the UK. Oh, in the Caffeine sandbox we're still 5th for the term...I don't get it. I just don't get it... Hey there and thanks for the post but this .com tweak appears more to be a UK SERP problem. I’m all for allowing UK .com sites to perform in the UK SERP but we’re seeing US .com sites entering the index. It appears on lending more weight to UK .com’s, US/Canadian and Irish sites have slipped in. After all, there are a lot of powerful sites in industries common to all these countries (and therefore search terms) – make one slip with non-UK TLDs getting a fraction more power in the UK results and you get, well, this situation.

I’ve taken onboard everything Google’s ever said about relevancy being key and this seems to throw in the face of it. I told my employers that we should focus on one market; the UK. We host there, we spend our off and online marketing spend there and now for one big term (‘online casino’) we’ve gone from 5th to 132nd in two weeks. Needless to say my employers are going crazy.

Top 10 for ‘online casino’…3 are hosted in the UK.

Oh, in the Caffeine sandbox we’re still 5th for the term…I don’t get it. I just don’t get it…

]]> By: Antony http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/more-about-generic-tlds-in-say-uk-results/#comment-393097 Antony Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:14:18 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=2961#comment-393097 Ok Matt, these results are really not getting any better at all, try this search: <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&source=hp&q=google+sitemap+generator&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&fp=65a6334453af9707" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&source=hp&q=google+sitemap+generator&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&fp=65a6334453af9707</a> Number 2 is in Italian!!!! are we expected to know Italian searching on Google.co.uk now? Ok Matt, these results are really not getting any better at all, try this search:

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&source=hp&q=google+sitemap+generator&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&fp=65a6334453af9707

Number 2 is in Italian!!!!

are we expected to know Italian searching on Google.co.uk now?

]]> By: Jonathan Walker http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/more-about-generic-tlds-in-say-uk-results/#comment-392659 Jonathan Walker Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:15:33 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/?p=2961#comment-392659 This past week I've noticed a big change in the UK SERPS, it appears now that Google is giving a lot of weight to the overall standing of a domain and not the quality or relevancy of the content. For example, if you search for leather sofas, you get consumer reports and even forum posts from popular websites, which aren't exactley useful, or what you would expect to be presented with. A lot more .com's, especially with the keyphrases in the titles are also appearing... This past week I’ve noticed a big change in the UK SERPS, it appears now that Google is giving a lot of weight to the overall standing of a domain and not the quality or relevancy of the content.

For example, if you search for leather sofas, you get consumer reports and even forum posts from popular websites, which aren’t exactley useful, or what you would expect to be presented with.

A lot more .com’s, especially with the keyphrases in the titles are also appearing…

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