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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/independent-report-on-invalid-clicks-released/#comment-120523</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clickmeter.com offer an independent services thats control the clickfraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clickmeter.com offer an independent services thats control the clickfraud.</p>
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		<title>By: Sterling Silver Jewelry</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/independent-report-on-invalid-clicks-released/#comment-92839</link>
		<dc:creator>Sterling Silver Jewelry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 19:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Google team for producing invalid click reports for advertisers.</description>
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		<title>By: Scented Candles</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/independent-report-on-invalid-clicks-released/#comment-92838</link>
		<dc:creator>Scented Candles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 19:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how much he got paid to produce the report ?</description>
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		<title>By: Gary R. Beal</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/independent-report-on-invalid-clicks-released/#comment-57552</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary R. Beal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, here is a post I made over at SEOChat I thought I might run by you since I found this article.


I found this the other day and found it quite interesting.

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Now advertisers will be able to see the number of invalid clicks Google found, as well as what percentage that represents of total clicks registered, said Shuman Ghosemajumder, business product manager for trust and safety at Google. .... Under the new system, AdWords customers will be able to see data on invalid clicks on a daily basis or beyond, going back to the beginning of the year, he said.


Its supposed to be available in a few months, probably in a beta version, then released after the first of the year.

Well before this thing every gets off the ground Google and Matt Cutts, let me make a few suggestions that are painfully obvious, and soon to create a stockpile of duplicate suggestions from your beta testers:

1. Allow an automated IP blocking tool to be used. Within the Adwords tool, offer date values to be selected as a filter, then sorted by frequency.

2. Add an email notification alarm to identify to the user when a rule that we set is broken.

3. Integrate this CF, or as you prefer to call them, invalid clicks statistical information throughout Analytics.

4. Don&#039;t just go back to the beginning of the year, you repeatedly say that you have been monitoring this for us so you have the information. Your settlement protects you against any repercussions, so release this valuable information to us.

Setting this up initially, rather than ignore these obviously critical enhancements for your clients, are what we have come to expect from Google.

GaryTheScubaDiver</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, here is a post I made over at SEOChat I thought I might run by you since I found this article.</p>
<p>I found this the other day and found it quite interesting.</p>
<p>Quote:<br />
Now advertisers will be able to see the number of invalid clicks Google found, as well as what percentage that represents of total clicks registered, said Shuman Ghosemajumder, business product manager for trust and safety at Google. &#8230;. Under the new system, AdWords customers will be able to see data on invalid clicks on a daily basis or beyond, going back to the beginning of the year, he said.</p>
<p>Its supposed to be available in a few months, probably in a beta version, then released after the first of the year.</p>
<p>Well before this thing every gets off the ground Google and Matt Cutts, let me make a few suggestions that are painfully obvious, and soon to create a stockpile of duplicate suggestions from your beta testers:</p>
<p>1. Allow an automated IP blocking tool to be used. Within the Adwords tool, offer date values to be selected as a filter, then sorted by frequency.</p>
<p>2. Add an email notification alarm to identify to the user when a rule that we set is broken.</p>
<p>3. Integrate this CF, or as you prefer to call them, invalid clicks statistical information throughout Analytics.</p>
<p>4. Don&#8217;t just go back to the beginning of the year, you repeatedly say that you have been monitoring this for us so you have the information. Your settlement protects you against any repercussions, so release this valuable information to us.</p>
<p>Setting this up initially, rather than ignore these obviously critical enhancements for your clients, are what we have come to expect from Google.</p>
<p>GaryTheScubaDiver</p>
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		<title>By: Melis</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/independent-report-on-invalid-clicks-released/#comment-57356</link>
		<dc:creator>Melis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been trying to figure out how to email you for months.

I am really irritated. I own my own business and I work hard. I went to SEO conferences, I have read all the books, and read everything there is on pleasing google. I did have #1 placements for the search phrases I wanted, but then google starts puttin crap like this http://www.find.fm/search.php?aid=4423&amp;keyword=seo

at the top of everything! They do not even have the words on their source page that should put them above me, yet they are. They have no text, no sybstance...it is just another junk website and it gets a #1 placement!!?? I do not understand this at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been trying to figure out how to email you for months.</p>
<p>I am really irritated. I own my own business and I work hard. I went to SEO conferences, I have read all the books, and read everything there is on pleasing google. I did have #1 placements for the search phrases I wanted, but then google starts puttin crap like this <a href="http://www.find.fm/search.php?aid=4423&amp;keyword=seo" rel="nofollow">http://www.find.fm/search.php?aid=4423&amp;keyword=seo</a></p>
<p>at the top of everything! They do not even have the words on their source page that should put them above me, yet they are. They have no text, no sybstance&#8230;it is just another junk website and it gets a #1 placement!!?? I do not understand this at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent D. Payne</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/independent-report-on-invalid-clicks-released/#comment-56652</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent D. Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 06:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work Google on alleviating one of online advertiser&#039;s concerns.

Brent D. Payne
A Google Certified Advertising Professional
http://www.bdeconsulting.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work Google on alleviating one of online advertiser&#8217;s concerns.</p>
<p>Brent D. Payne<br />
A Google Certified Advertising Professional<br />
<a href="http://www.bdeconsulting.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bdeconsulting.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Adam That Doesn't Belong To Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/independent-report-on-invalid-clicks-released/#comment-56624</link>
		<dc:creator>The Adam That Doesn't Belong To Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 05:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben:  I&#039;m the Adam that doesn&#039;t work for Matt.  In fact, he&#039;s never even met me.  He&#039;s just one of my groupies that I keep around since he worships the ground I walk on and stuff.  See him taking the charity Adsense idea seriously just because I suggested it?  Yeah, that&#039;s what it is.  Really. :D

Seriously, Lasnik is the one who works for Matt.  I&#039;m just a random stranger to him. 

And the charity idea is a good one...but Matt, if you use it, you may need to put some sort of disclaimer or something stating to people [b]not[/b] to click the ads unless they&#039;re legitimately interested.  A lot of people would just to support you and/or your charity just because it&#039;s on your site and, while the idea is noble, it cheats the advertisers.  Either that, or run the PSAs only?  Either way, it&#039;s probably something you thought through a lot more than I have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben:  I&#8217;m the Adam that doesn&#8217;t work for Matt.  In fact, he&#8217;s never even met me.  He&#8217;s just one of my groupies that I keep around since he worships the ground I walk on and stuff.  See him taking the charity Adsense idea seriously just because I suggested it?  Yeah, that&#8217;s what it is.  Really. <img src='http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously, Lasnik is the one who works for Matt.  I&#8217;m just a random stranger to him. </p>
<p>And the charity idea is a good one&#8230;but Matt, if you use it, you may need to put some sort of disclaimer or something stating to people [b]not[/b] to click the ads unless they&#8217;re legitimately interested.  A lot of people would just to support you and/or your charity just because it&#8217;s on your site and, while the idea is noble, it cheats the advertisers.  Either that, or run the PSAs only?  Either way, it&#8217;s probably something you thought through a lot more than I have.</p>
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		<title>By: franklin</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/independent-report-on-invalid-clicks-released/#comment-56360</link>
		<dc:creator>franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, whats even more egregious is the players in a certain niche I&#039;m aware of who use adsense to fund their adwords by targetting competitor ads on their adsense sites, apparently it does a wonder for ROI and knocks out competition, a one-two punch.

If it can be done, it will. Please help Matt, the alligators are waist deep!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, whats even more egregious is the players in a certain niche I&#8217;m aware of who use adsense to fund their adwords by targetting competitor ads on their adsense sites, apparently it does a wonder for ROI and knocks out competition, a one-two punch.</p>
<p>If it can be done, it will. Please help Matt, the alligators are waist deep!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/independent-report-on-invalid-clicks-released/#comment-56345</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, I see many people talking about click fraud from the perspective of people (or machines) clicking on ads purely to either disable a competitor&#039;s ad, or to generate affiliate revenue.

I see a bigger problem in my industry (admittedly, I have no metrics, just an impression) of the scraper sites who make a search-results-lookalike page that has PPC ads on it and try to get those pages to rank highly.  Now, I have seen Google in general drop those kinds of pages way out of sight in the SERPs, but of course if they still rank well in Yahoo, MSN etc., and they have Google ads on them, the problem still exists: a legitimate consumer finds the scraper site (instead of mine!), sees that it&#039;s a pile of poo, but clicks on my ad on that site and I get charged.

Can you comment on how landing page analysis helps here?  Your thoughts on what Google is doing to combat this?

Thx, Michael.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, I see many people talking about click fraud from the perspective of people (or machines) clicking on ads purely to either disable a competitor&#8217;s ad, or to generate affiliate revenue.</p>
<p>I see a bigger problem in my industry (admittedly, I have no metrics, just an impression) of the scraper sites who make a search-results-lookalike page that has PPC ads on it and try to get those pages to rank highly.  Now, I have seen Google in general drop those kinds of pages way out of sight in the SERPs, but of course if they still rank well in Yahoo, MSN etc., and they have Google ads on them, the problem still exists: a legitimate consumer finds the scraper site (instead of mine!), sees that it&#8217;s a pile of poo, but clicks on my ad on that site and I get charged.</p>
<p>Can you comment on how landing page analysis helps here?  Your thoughts on what Google is doing to combat this?</p>
<p>Thx, Michael.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Cutts</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/independent-report-on-invalid-clicks-released/#comment-56282</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Cutts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, I was talking about the &quot;adsense charity&quot; idea. Bob, I&#039;ve only got a finite number of hours in the day, so I can&#039;t make it everywhere. Adam is ramping up fast, but it will take time until he&#039;s ready to wade into any discussion. Ben, I&#039;ve only got the one Adam working with me. :)

Maurice, some people think that the BBC is Satan-ish? That makes me feel better for some reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, I was talking about the &#8220;adsense charity&#8221; idea. Bob, I&#8217;ve only got a finite number of hours in the day, so I can&#8217;t make it everywhere. Adam is ramping up fast, but it will take time until he&#8217;s ready to wade into any discussion. Ben, I&#8217;ve only got the one Adam working with me. <img src='http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Maurice, some people think that the BBC is Satan-ish? That makes me feel better for some reason.</p>
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