I have done a lot of research on whether a website paying Google AD will get top ranking, the result is “no”. I certainly don’t believe Google are doing anything ‘evil’. If you are selling products/services similar to Google, then you will still get good ranking. Ex. when I type in “email” googling all email providers, yahoo has better ranking than others.

How do you explain the fact that Google are always No. 1 for ‘IE7′ in AdWords?

http://www.google.com/search?q=ie7&gl=us

I refresh this search result about 25 times and never got anyone else above Google.

Plus it is worth noting that when Google ‘bet’ on AdWords, they are paying money to themselves, hence it is not a fair competition as they could be paying themselves as much as they like per click.

Thanks,

Jason

But I think what you wrote is only half of the truth.

If backlinks are “the” method Google mostly look at, the question link:www.xxx
must be the most important for all webmasters. This Google had disobeyed for years
because of a lack of capacity ? And second: in my case this question shows
4 links and three of them are the wrong advice. And at last there are no effects of all my links at my PR2, and this for month I added several new links. ODP/DMOZ would be the biggest link I can get, and the absence of it has a big impact to my PR and my live.

Search for “fanfare mp3” or “free trumpet fanfare” and you will find (in many different countries) my download page with its bad PR, but if you would search for “agate lamps” you would find some of my products at glassartist.org on this term, but never my index_en.html!

All this tell me that more wrong with Google than you will concede to us,
it’s just reputation management – which is not necessarily the same thing as damage control

Greetings

Karl Heinz

I did some of my own investigative work on this matter and created a set of screen shots discussed in this blog post on my blog.

http://www.flexewebs.com/102.html

Please let me know what your thoughts are.

Thanks,

Jason

While it’s true that giving attention to some claims does perpetuate an idea perhaps beyond it’s merit. The other side of the coin is that by ignoring them, often your very lack of a response fuels the fire just as much -if not more.

Good or bad, right or wrong, sometimes some stories take on a life of their own as people come down on one side or another in their interpretations. Heck, we were guilty of picking this one up too:
(http://www.webpronews.com/insiderreports/searchinsider/wpn-49-20061208YesIsaacGoogleUsesAdWords.html)

That said, I guess I’d just like to offer that just because everybody’s talking about something it doesn’t always follow with necessity that the subject is really something worth talking about. but if you’re a Google or a Yahoo – or any major brand, it’s generally not a bad idea to weigh in on popular issues… it’s just reputation management – which is not necessarily the same thing as damage control.

Also, there is no special “ODP boost.” The PageRank value of a link from an ODP page is solely because that ODP page has high PageRank.

Matt if you want to debunk something, please begin with this stuff:

on http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=34432&hl=en

Google says: In general, webmasters can improve the rank of their sites by increasing the number of high-quality sites that link to their pages.

I say thats lie through elision!

because the right batch should be:

webmasters can improve the rank of their sites by increasing the number of high-quality sites that link to their pages if google will accept them.

for month and month I increased the high-quality-backlinks, but google ignore this.

Google hides themselves behind a broken-down: link:www.light2art.de
test it and you will see, only one correct backlink, the three others are
URL’s from my own page and there absolutly wrong.

No artistsoline.biz, no dexigner.com,glassartists.org, chinaoilpaintingswholesale.com or dart.fine-art.com! Should I think this are all spam sides?
If I ask your engine: link +light2art.de they all there!

The other way to hide the faults is in the connection to DMOZ/ODP. For years I am unable to get a listing there, and them are not
be in position to send a automatic e-mail back or a bot to test my index.
How can a #1 Searchengine depend a organisation which says for weeks (or more):
We apologize for the inconvenience while we resolve technical problems.

if I try to suggest a URL?
This seemed to me as a system to get alibis for bad work or worse thinks.

PS: I am not afraid that you may rank my down, because this happens in the past and on some terms and products I am farther top and my time will comes, dead or alive.

Greeting Karl Heinz

But, back to the abstract. A solid ’see it’s not true’ example does not prove anything. And a ’see how bad they are (they stepped on my daisy)’ example would just be snapshot and not reality. Finding an algo to prove ‘evil or good?’ is not as easy as both sides have presented.

If you’re going to do a day of debunking, you gotta do it to a beat.

Who wants to see Matt rap.

No way, dude. He can’t bust. He grew up in Kentucky. There’s a leaflet for an airplane, eh? Famous Kentucky Rap Legends.

I’m thinking Matt should get in touch with his roots, grow a Kentucky waterfall and debunk Billy Ray Cyrus-style. It’d be good PR for Google, since it would appeal to the lowest common denominator. Marketing…gotta think of the marketing. “And in other search news, Google has made great strides among the 486-using AOL crowd…”