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		<title>By: florin</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/how-to-report-paid-links/#comment-473432</link>
		<dc:creator>florin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matt,

I bought a site recently and after, I found out ( seeing some posts on different forums ) that the former owner sold links :(. It seems that the web site is marked as a link seller now. 

I removed all the links from it and I would like to know if there is a way to get back on track with it as time passes ( do I have to apply for reconsideration request in WMT ? ) or should I bury the project forever ?

Thanks in advance for support</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matt,</p>
<p>I bought a site recently and after, I found out ( seeing some posts on different forums ) that the former owner sold links <img src='http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> . It seems that the web site is marked as a link seller now. </p>
<p>I removed all the links from it and I would like to know if there is a way to get back on track with it as time passes ( do I have to apply for reconsideration request in WMT ? ) or should I bury the project forever ?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance for support</p>
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		<title>By: David Lockett</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/how-to-report-paid-links/#comment-468421</link>
		<dc:creator>David Lockett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many webmasters are selling links and not declaring those links to the search engine bots as paid links. Google never appears to take action against these webmasters or against their clients and the client&#039;s websites continue to climb the page rankings ladder on the back of the paid links. While at the same time, webmasters and clients who&#039;s sites do not break Google&#039;s Terms of Service by selling or purchasing links, frequently obtain lower Page Ranking from Google.

Google&#039;s less that transparent business plactices and their willingness to allow/encourage these practices to continue, does not help to build confidence that Google abides by it&#039;s aclaimed motto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many webmasters are selling links and not declaring those links to the search engine bots as paid links. Google never appears to take action against these webmasters or against their clients and the client&#8217;s websites continue to climb the page rankings ladder on the back of the paid links. While at the same time, webmasters and clients who&#8217;s sites do not break Google&#8217;s Terms of Service by selling or purchasing links, frequently obtain lower Page Ranking from Google.</p>
<p>Google&#8217;s less that transparent business plactices and their willingness to allow/encourage these practices to continue, does not help to build confidence that Google abides by it&#8217;s aclaimed motto.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/how-to-report-paid-links/#comment-459489</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 04:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see there is a tool for junk in your index.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see there is a tool for junk in your index.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/how-to-report-paid-links/#comment-457417</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 01:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like reading Matt&#039;s blog but I also kinda hate it at the same time because...well...because it drives me to waste my time posting a comment when I should be doing other things.  And as usual with previous comments...I am late to the party but what the heck.  

I would like ask a general question for those of you who seem to think that Google is all knowing and all seeing.  

Let&#039;s say I have a web site.  Let&#039;s call it A.  Someone else has a website that we will call B.  Both websites are generally related in subject but not direct competitors.  Site A sells a text link to site B that looks like an innocent and useful link for the value of site visitors.  Site A does not indicate that the link is a paid link at all and does not use a nofollow tag on it.  

How is Google going to know that site B paid to get a link on site A?

THEY CAN&#039;T!!  

Some of you people seem to think that Google&#039;s algorithm is capable of making chicken soup, of cooking you dinner, getting your newspaper for you, and otherwise discerning what is rolling around inside your hearts.  

Get real!  

Google can no more tell what our motivations are than I can tell what the motivation of any of you posting is!  Not with any degree of certainty.  

Unless you come out and tell me explicitly why you are posting the comments you are...I can&#039;t really tell.  Who knows what dark and sinister motive lies lurking inside some of you.  

Google&#039;s algo is fatally flawed.  They value links.  People go after links.  And Google simply cannot tell completely which links are valid and which aren&#039;t. Which one&#039;s are natural and which aren&#039;t.  

We have a problem Houston has now become &quot;We have a problem Google&quot;.  A problem that isn&#039;t going to go away and that is essentially unsolvable.  

Your own algo is causing a flood of spam as people jump on the linking bandwagon.  And there is little that Google can or will do to put the genie back into it&#039;s bottle.  Welcome to the state of Google today.  

Incidentally the idea that one can create a wonderful and rich content site and wait around to get natural backlinks is in my opinion, a joke.  Sure, if a wonderful site is ranked well it will get natural backlinks but if it is not ranked well...say down on page 10 or something, how is it supposed to get backlinks if not assertively and proactively going out there to acquire links (paid or otherwise)?  

Any webmaster who cares to wait around to get backlinks naturally is welcomed to be my guest and sit around all they want.  I and the rest of your competition will leave you in the dust while we go out and acquire backlinks.  

Does that improve the search experience?  Not really.  But Google created the environment in which such artificial link building thrives.  Google has turned linking into a commodity that is sold, traded, and otherwise used to determine relevance and value.  

Sure there are websites that have gotten thousands and thousands of natural links.  But among the millions and millions of websites in existence those are the relative few compared to the countless who have not and cannot get such links easily if at all.  

Not every web site owner among millions of competitors can come up with awe inspiring, wonderful content, that everyone and their next door will talk about at the water cooler and more important create backlinks to.  

It never ceases to amaze me that people can fall for the line that all we have to do is create great content and people (i.e. backlinks) will just happen naturally.  That&#039;s like saying that if I go out and start sweeping the local street corner and provide value that way that people will start throwing me money.  Things don&#039;t work that way in real life folks and neither do they work that way over the Internet.  

If you sit around waiting for backlinks to come to you...most of you will be sitting around a very, very, v-e-r-y, long time.  

Carlos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like reading Matt&#8217;s blog but I also kinda hate it at the same time because&#8230;well&#8230;because it drives me to waste my time posting a comment when I should be doing other things.  And as usual with previous comments&#8230;I am late to the party but what the heck.  </p>
<p>I would like ask a general question for those of you who seem to think that Google is all knowing and all seeing.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say I have a web site.  Let&#8217;s call it A.  Someone else has a website that we will call B.  Both websites are generally related in subject but not direct competitors.  Site A sells a text link to site B that looks like an innocent and useful link for the value of site visitors.  Site A does not indicate that the link is a paid link at all and does not use a nofollow tag on it.  </p>
<p>How is Google going to know that site B paid to get a link on site A?</p>
<p>THEY CAN&#8217;T!!  </p>
<p>Some of you people seem to think that Google&#8217;s algorithm is capable of making chicken soup, of cooking you dinner, getting your newspaper for you, and otherwise discerning what is rolling around inside your hearts.  </p>
<p>Get real!  </p>
<p>Google can no more tell what our motivations are than I can tell what the motivation of any of you posting is!  Not with any degree of certainty.  </p>
<p>Unless you come out and tell me explicitly why you are posting the comments you are&#8230;I can&#8217;t really tell.  Who knows what dark and sinister motive lies lurking inside some of you.  </p>
<p>Google&#8217;s algo is fatally flawed.  They value links.  People go after links.  And Google simply cannot tell completely which links are valid and which aren&#8217;t. Which one&#8217;s are natural and which aren&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>We have a problem Houston has now become &#8220;We have a problem Google&#8221;.  A problem that isn&#8217;t going to go away and that is essentially unsolvable.  </p>
<p>Your own algo is causing a flood of spam as people jump on the linking bandwagon.  And there is little that Google can or will do to put the genie back into it&#8217;s bottle.  Welcome to the state of Google today.  </p>
<p>Incidentally the idea that one can create a wonderful and rich content site and wait around to get natural backlinks is in my opinion, a joke.  Sure, if a wonderful site is ranked well it will get natural backlinks but if it is not ranked well&#8230;say down on page 10 or something, how is it supposed to get backlinks if not assertively and proactively going out there to acquire links (paid or otherwise)?  </p>
<p>Any webmaster who cares to wait around to get backlinks naturally is welcomed to be my guest and sit around all they want.  I and the rest of your competition will leave you in the dust while we go out and acquire backlinks.  </p>
<p>Does that improve the search experience?  Not really.  But Google created the environment in which such artificial link building thrives.  Google has turned linking into a commodity that is sold, traded, and otherwise used to determine relevance and value.  </p>
<p>Sure there are websites that have gotten thousands and thousands of natural links.  But among the millions and millions of websites in existence those are the relative few compared to the countless who have not and cannot get such links easily if at all.  </p>
<p>Not every web site owner among millions of competitors can come up with awe inspiring, wonderful content, that everyone and their next door will talk about at the water cooler and more important create backlinks to.  </p>
<p>It never ceases to amaze me that people can fall for the line that all we have to do is create great content and people (i.e. backlinks) will just happen naturally.  That&#8217;s like saying that if I go out and start sweeping the local street corner and provide value that way that people will start throwing me money.  Things don&#8217;t work that way in real life folks and neither do they work that way over the Internet.  </p>
<p>If you sit around waiting for backlinks to come to you&#8230;most of you will be sitting around a very, very, v-e-r-y, long time.  </p>
<p>Carlos</p>
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		<title>By: Tonic Traveler</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/how-to-report-paid-links/#comment-402495</link>
		<dc:creator>Tonic Traveler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am afraid that Google will distinguish between paid and free... &quot;bonus&quot; or &quot;award&quot; links.
It&#039;s like... they make us use their Google Webmaster Tools to tell them about paid links. Then they sneakily sniff-hunt after them and potentially penalize us.

I am not very happy about this reporting thing.
I was enthusiastic about analytics, but now this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am afraid that Google will distinguish between paid and free&#8230; &#8220;bonus&#8221; or &#8220;award&#8221; links.<br />
It&#8217;s like&#8230; they make us use their Google Webmaster Tools to tell them about paid links. Then they sneakily sniff-hunt after them and potentially penalize us.</p>
<p>I am not very happy about this reporting thing.<br />
I was enthusiastic about analytics, but now this?</p>
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		<title>By: darlyn</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/how-to-report-paid-links/#comment-401265</link>
		<dc:creator>darlyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Matt,

I am accepting paid links in my one blog and other paid sites... until I heard  Google might penalized sites accepting do follow paid links... so I stop doing paid post.  but I was disappointed when my friend asked me.. wow you had a new post.. is that a paid post? when it is not  a paid I only give link love the the site I found very interesting. 

I wish there is a way we can recognize paid post easily. :)

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Matt,</p>
<p>I am accepting paid links in my one blog and other paid sites&#8230; until I heard  Google might penalized sites accepting do follow paid links&#8230; so I stop doing paid post.  but I was disappointed when my friend asked me.. wow you had a new post.. is that a paid post? when it is not  a paid I only give link love the the site I found very interesting. </p>
<p>I wish there is a way we can recognize paid post easily. <img src='http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Ward</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/how-to-report-paid-links/#comment-394694</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry i&#039;m not grasping this, if you buy space on a directory is that counted as a paid link or is it when you buy space on someones website? So having advertisement space could effectively damage the client? or am i well off track here, some help please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry i&#8217;m not grasping this, if you buy space on a directory is that counted as a paid link or is it when you buy space on someones website? So having advertisement space could effectively damage the client? or am i well off track here, some help please.</p>
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		<title>By: Ewan Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/how-to-report-paid-links/#comment-392403</link>
		<dc:creator>Ewan Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Halfdeck (comment 15/4/07, 9:45 am).

Asda now sits at number 35 (for a search on &quot;car insurance&quot; in my part of the world).

Any thoughts? Did others beat them at their own game or were they rumbled by G?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Halfdeck (comment 15/4/07, 9:45 am).</p>
<p>Asda now sits at number 35 (for a search on &#8220;car insurance&#8221; in my part of the world).</p>
<p>Any thoughts? Did others beat them at their own game or were they rumbled by G?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/how-to-report-paid-links/#comment-387612</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really disagree with this-somewhat.  User&#039;s reporting won&#039;t know the difference between black hat SEO, and a webmaster who is trying to make money off a non-google-adsense advertising tool.  A webmaster who can program their own custom advertising system, has slots and wants anyone to pay if their site isn&#039;t that popular.  Why does it have to be related to the subject matter?  Bots should be smart enough to pick only the content on a page to dispay in search results, and not index navigation, ads etc.

Ironically, I&#039;ve received non subject related ads on my websites with google adsense before (for example a fart button ad).  Should I report Google?

Does anybody else agree with what I&#039;m saying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really disagree with this-somewhat.  User&#8217;s reporting won&#8217;t know the difference between black hat SEO, and a webmaster who is trying to make money off a non-google-adsense advertising tool.  A webmaster who can program their own custom advertising system, has slots and wants anyone to pay if their site isn&#8217;t that popular.  Why does it have to be related to the subject matter?  Bots should be smart enough to pick only the content on a page to dispay in search results, and not index navigation, ads etc.</p>
<p>Ironically, I&#8217;ve received non subject related ads on my websites with google adsense before (for example a fart button ad).  Should I report Google?</p>
<p>Does anybody else agree with what I&#8217;m saying?</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Nerd</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/how-to-report-paid-links/#comment-378077</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO Nerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 01:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google has too much power.  It&#039;s horrible that we all have to jump through their hoops.  I have one perfectly legitimate site loaded with great information and having thousands of organic inlinks -- not a single one paid -- that recently got smacked down by Google for some unknown reason.  I suspect it was something as simple as somebody at the Googleplex not liking the site, but good luck trying to find out.  

I&#039;m going to disengage from Google -- no more AdSense, no more gmail, no more search, no more analytics.  No company should have that much power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google has too much power.  It&#8217;s horrible that we all have to jump through their hoops.  I have one perfectly legitimate site loaded with great information and having thousands of organic inlinks &#8212; not a single one paid &#8212; that recently got smacked down by Google for some unknown reason.  I suspect it was something as simple as somebody at the Googleplex not liking the site, but good luck trying to find out.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to disengage from Google &#8212; no more AdSense, no more gmail, no more search, no more analytics.  No company should have that much power.</p>
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