Comments on: Google Hell? http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/ neat fun stuff Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:35:07 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Jack http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-354911 Jack Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:15:42 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-354911 ive already been in google hell and i dont wanna go back! ;) -Jack @ <a href="http://www.policehow.com" rel="nofollow">How to become a police officer</a> ive already been in google hell and i dont wanna go back! ;)
-Jack @ How to become a police officer

]]> By: Michael Hampton http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-134168 Michael Hampton Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:25:11 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-134168 How much of a Ranking impact can a site have for switching web hosting servers? This would be from one company to a new company. We have dedicated IP addresses assigned, but of course will be getting a new dedicated IP address as well. We're concerned that DNS changes could hurt ranking positions. How much of a Ranking impact can a site have for switching web hosting servers?
This would be from one company to a new company. We have dedicated IP addresses assigned, but of course will be getting a new dedicated IP address as well.
We’re concerned that DNS changes could hurt ranking positions.

]]> By: Michael Hampton http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-115376 Michael Hampton Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:02:36 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-115376 When searching Google, there are some results that come back with one or two columns of extra site links. Obviously, this gives the user much more information and creates a higher percentage chance of a user clicking through. What are these extra links called and how do you go about getting your site listed with these extra links? Note: only the top result ever has these extra category links I'm not talking about Local Results. There used to be one column and now I'm seeing 2 columns. When searching Google, there are some results that come back with one or two columns of extra site links. Obviously, this gives the user much more information and creates a higher percentage chance of a user clicking through.

What are these extra links called and how do you go about getting your site listed with these extra links?

Note: only the top result ever has these extra category links
I’m not talking about Local Results.
There used to be one column and now I’m seeing 2 columns.

]]> By: Supplemental flaw http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-111691 Supplemental flaw Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:24:57 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-111691 Supplemental Google algorithm is flawed. I worked hard to have these 2 pages out of supplemental index. After 2 months of being out of supplemental and gaining a little traffic from Google these pages come back to supplemental. These pages are loved by visitors because they are informative and with good quality pictures and pictures speak a thousand words... but for Googlebot it means nothing. Fortunately, these pages are getting traffic from search engines that are starting to give relevant results such as live.com and yahoo.com. Google just removed the word supplemental from the results but it doesn't make any difference since they still bring your tons of pages to supplemental. Search is evolving but I think Google's search is evolving in the wrong direction. Supplemental Google algorithm is flawed.

I worked hard to have these 2 pages out of supplemental index. After 2 months of being out of supplemental and gaining a little traffic from Google these pages come back to supplemental. These pages are loved by visitors because they are informative and with good quality pictures and pictures speak a thousand words… but for Googlebot it means nothing.

Fortunately, these pages are getting traffic from search engines that are starting to give relevant results such as live.com and yahoo.com.

Google just removed the word supplemental from the results but it doesn’t make any difference since they still bring your tons of pages to supplemental.

Search is evolving but I think Google’s search is evolving in the wrong direction.

]]> By: Prashat Vikram Singh http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-111661 Prashat Vikram Singh Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:02:05 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-111661 Thanks Matt... Its really good post, My blog was in Supplemental Index, your tips really helps me..... Thanks Matt…
Its really good post, My blog was in Supplemental Index, your tips really helps me…..

]]> By: Jim http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-108735 Jim Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:44:59 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-108735 Matt: our site is a retail site listing 28,000+ items. We have over the years had excellent google listings with high search results. We submitted our listings through froogle and still continue to upload the files even though froogle has gone away. 50% of our listings have now gone into supplimental results. It has destroted our retail from our site. Why has this occured and how can we fix it? Please help Thank you Jim Matt:
our site is a retail site listing 28,000+ items. We have over the years had excellent google listings with high search results. We submitted our listings through froogle and still continue to upload the files even though froogle has gone away. 50% of our listings have now gone into supplimental results. It has destroted our retail from our site. Why has this occured and how can we fix it?
Please help
Thank you
Jim

]]> By: Andrea http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-108425 Andrea Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:33:46 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-108425 Matts your artcile is really interesting, but what about links that you don't want and start to have just becuase stupid and unrealiable directory borns and put your web site inside them? I saw my web site slowly disappear from the web position I got along the time. My web site doesn't offer dup contents, but all my pages are marked as supplemental, links are suddenly disappeared (just 2 against 282 available in webmaster tools). What about this? How can I get back my old positioning? How can I report spam for those web site with which I get in touch and they refuse to remove my link? I've a link that is there since 2001 ... Your private answer is appreciated too. Matts

your artcile is really interesting, but what about links that you don’t want and start to have just becuase stupid and unrealiable directory borns and put your web site inside them?
I saw my web site slowly disappear from the web position I got along the time. My web site doesn’t offer dup contents, but all my pages are marked as supplemental, links are suddenly disappeared (just 2 against 282 available in webmaster tools).
What about this? How can I get back my old positioning?

How can I report spam for those web site with which I get in touch and they refuse to remove my link? I’ve a link that is there since 2001 …

Your private answer is appreciated too.

]]> By: Bam K. http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-108352 Bam K. Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:27:58 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-108352 Dave (original) wrote: "Millions of links to hundreds of sites. LOL! What has this to do with the topic?" To be correct, about 2 millions of links to 2 millions unique product pages on 120 large internet stores. Google counts even links marked with rel="nofollow". Such links have a boost factor in configuration, it could be 0.1 last year, and it could be 9.99 today. Webmaster Tools clearly show links to Tokenizer from this "Google-Hell" page, even links outside of top-100 mark. Dave (original) wrote: “Millions of links to hundreds of sites. LOL! What has this to do with the topic?”
To be correct, about 2 millions of links to 2 millions unique product pages on 120 large internet stores. Google counts even links marked with rel=”nofollow”. Such links have a boost factor in configuration, it could be 0.1 last year, and it could be 9.99 today. Webmaster Tools clearly show links to Tokenizer from this “Google-Hell” page, even links outside of top-100 mark.

]]> By: mika vaan http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-107100 mika vaan Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:01:17 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-107100 Tsau I understund that linkbuing is something that Google doesnt like. But how about affiliateprogram links like Cj or Tradedoubler? I think those are also paid links you just pay them afterwards. Tsau
I understund that linkbuing is something that Google doesnt like. But how about affiliateprogram links like Cj or Tradedoubler? I think those are also paid links you just pay them afterwards.

]]> By: Traffic Court Guy http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-106615 Traffic Court Guy Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:52:49 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/#comment-106615 We tried to deal with the supplemental results problem with priority in our sitemap.xml page, and it hasn't worked. Our site (town-court.com - a directory of traffic courts) has a lot of the "court" pages in supplemental results. When someone searches for a some courts (say, Galway Town Court (near Saratoga NY if you care)) the search result is the blog page from our site where we reported that Galway Town Court had been added, instead of our page on Galway Town Court appearing. I suspect there are other issues that explain this partly, but we thought we could address it by making the blog pages priority 0.1 in our sitemap.xml page, and making our court pages higher (default of 0.9, but we can change that). In the case of Galway (just an example), that court page does have sitemap priority of 0.9. All of our blog pages have priority 0.1. Shouldn't Google respect our choice and put the low priority pages in supplemental results before the high priority pages? I do recognize there are other issues. When we first set up the blog, the link to our court pages was different so the blog entry doesn't link the way we'd like to the court page (it still works, but we have excess baggage). The blog archive pages have many courts on them and so may seem more "unique". The blog archive pages do generally have higher pagerank too. At the same time, there are virtually zero links to the blog pages (only from the main page to the main blog page) while the site is set up to link to the court pages. We can see from our Analytics data that the blog pages are much less helpful to users than the main page, and are thinking of some remedies (redirecting blog archive pages to the site home page for example, or adding a larger search box to the blog, page or even replicating part of the home page content on each blog page), but really we just thought that sitemaps priority was the answer - so far it's not. Any words of wisdom from the Great Matt or his legion of followers? We tried to deal with the supplemental results problem with priority in our sitemap.xml page, and it hasn’t worked.

Our site (town-court.com – a directory of traffic courts) has a lot of the “court” pages in supplemental results. When someone searches for a some courts (say, Galway Town Court (near Saratoga NY if you care)) the search result is the blog page from our site where we reported that Galway Town Court had been added, instead of our page on Galway Town Court appearing.

I suspect there are other issues that explain this partly, but we thought we could address it by making the blog pages priority 0.1 in our sitemap.xml page, and making our court pages higher (default of 0.9, but we can change that). In the case of Galway (just an example), that court page does have sitemap priority of 0.9. All of our blog pages have priority 0.1.

Shouldn’t Google respect our choice and put the low priority pages in supplemental results before the high priority pages?

I do recognize there are other issues. When we first set up the blog, the link to our court pages was different so the blog entry doesn’t link the way we’d like to the court page (it still works, but we have excess baggage). The blog archive pages have many courts on them and so may seem more “unique”. The blog archive pages do generally have higher pagerank too. At the same time, there are virtually zero links to the blog pages (only from the main page to the main blog page) while the site is set up to link to the court pages.

We can see from our Analytics data that the blog pages are much less helpful to users than the main page, and are thinking of some remedies (redirecting blog archive pages to the site home page for example, or adding a larger search box to the blog, page or even replicating part of the home page content on each blog page), but really we just thought that sitemaps priority was the answer – so far it’s not.

Any words of wisdom from the Great Matt or his legion of followers?

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