Comments on: GoodKarma radio show and a clarification http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/ neat fun stuff Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:12:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Marianne Sweeny http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86933 Marianne Sweeny Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:50:13 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86933 Now I'm surprised that no one has yet associated SEO and Google with the Cliffs of Despair from "The Princess Bride." That was the first thing that came to mind for me. Now I’m surprised that no one has yet associated SEO and Google with the Cliffs of Despair from “The Princess Bride.” That was the first thing that came to mind for me.

]]> By: Todd http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86879 Todd Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:17:37 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86879 One more lesson - from Wesley Just because one has a blackhat - doesn't mean they have a black heart:) One more lesson - from Wesley
Just because one has a blackhat - doesn’t mean they have a black heart:)

]]> By: Todd http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86878 Todd Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:13:46 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86878 >Next I’d love to hear what The Princess Bride can teach about SEO. How to battle wits (pun sort of intended) Westley: You're trying to trick into giving away something. It won't work. Vincini: It has worked! You've given everything away! I know where the poison is! :) Thought you'd also enjoy: http://www.quizilla.com/users/highwaytokel/quizzes/%22A%20princess%20bride%20personality%20test!%22/ >Next I’d love to hear what The Princess Bride can teach about SEO.

How to battle wits (pun sort of intended)

Westley: You’re trying to trick into giving away something. It won’t
work.

Vincini: It has worked! You’ve given everything away! I know where the
poison is!

:)

Thought you’d also enjoy:
http://www.quizilla.com/users/highwaytokel/quizzes/%22A%20princess%20bride%20personality%20test!%22/

]]> By: Niall O'M http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86807 Niall O'M Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:54:02 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86807 Love the Buffy SEO angle it's great! Did this really happen?! http://www.onlineworx.net/blog/2006/09/24/buffy-holds-the-key-to-seo/ Keep doing the videos and radio shows Matt :) Love the Buffy SEO angle it’s great!

Did this really happen?! http://www.onlineworx.net/blog/2006/09/24/buffy-holds-the-key-to-seo/

Keep doing the videos and radio shows Matt :)

]]> By: Matt Cutts http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86733 Matt Cutts Fri, 22 Sep 2006 05:03:37 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86733 Kelly Jones, I have to say that is quite impressive. :) Kelly Jones, I have to say that is quite impressive. :)

]]> By: Kelly Jones http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86712 Kelly Jones Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:30:39 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86712 Remember, you asked for it! The Princess Bride & SEO (quotes stolen from http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093779/quotes) (and severely modified) Webmaster: Are you toying with me? Matt Cutts: No! I want you to feel you're doing well. I hate for people to die unhappy. Whitehat: We are men of action, lies do not become us. Matt Cutts to Blackhat: Hello. My name is Matt Cutts. You spammed my index, prepare to die. Blackhat: Good heavens. Are you still trying to win? Whitehat: That Matt, he can *fuss*. Blackhat: Fuss, fuss... I think he like to scream at *us*. Whitehat: Probably he means no *harm*. Blackhat: He's really very short on *charm*. Whitehat: You have a great gift for *rhyme*. Blackhat: Yes, yes, some of the *time*. Matt Cutts: Enough of that. Whitehat: are there updates *ahead*? Blackhat: If there are, we all be *dead*. Matt Cutts: No more rhymes now, I *mean it*. Blackhat: Anybody want a *peanut*? Matt Cutts: DYEEAAHHHHHH. Matt Cutts: I donna suppose you could speed things up? Webmaster: If you're in such a hurry, you could ... find something useful to do. Matt Cutts: I could do that... but I do not think you would accept my help, since I am only waiting around to kill you. Webmaster: That does put a damper on our relationship. Matt Cutts: You seem a decent fellow. I hate to kill you. Whitehat: You seem a decent fellow. I hate to die. Matt Cutts: Get used to disappointment. Matt Cutts: I can't compete with you physically, and you're no match for my brains. Webmaster: You're that smart? Matt Cutts: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates? Webmaster: Yes. Matt Cutts: Morons. Webmaster: You mock my pain. Matt Cutts: Life is pain... Anyone who says differently is selling something. Webmasters: We'll never survive. Matt Cutts: Nonsense. You're only saying that because no one ever has. Blackhat: Surrender. Matt Cutts: You mean you wish to surrender to me? Very well, I accept. Matt Cutts: But, I promise I will not kill you until you reach the top. Matt Cutts: Good night. Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning. Webmaster1: Ever since Matt Cutts penalized his site, his confidence has been shattered. Webmaster2: Why'd you say that name? You promised me you would never say that name! Webmaster1: What, Matt Cutts? Webmaster2: Aahaahh! Webmaster1: Matt Cutts! Matt Cutts! Matt Cutts! Webmaster2: I'm not listening! KJ PS: Any chance Matt this humor will help me get out of the penalty box? ;-) Remember, you asked for it!

The Princess Bride & SEO
(quotes stolen from http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093779/quotes)
(and severely modified)

Webmaster: Are you toying with me?
Matt Cutts: No! I want you to feel you’re doing well. I hate for people to die unhappy.

Whitehat: We are men of action, lies do not become us.

Matt Cutts to Blackhat: Hello. My name is Matt Cutts. You spammed my index, prepare to die.
Blackhat: Good heavens. Are you still trying to win?

Whitehat: That Matt, he can *fuss*.
Blackhat: Fuss, fuss… I think he like to scream at *us*.
Whitehat: Probably he means no *harm*.
Blackhat: He’s really very short on *charm*.
Whitehat: You have a great gift for *rhyme*.
Blackhat: Yes, yes, some of the *time*.
Matt Cutts: Enough of that.
Whitehat: are there updates *ahead*?
Blackhat: If there are, we all be *dead*.
Matt Cutts: No more rhymes now, I *mean it*.
Blackhat: Anybody want a *peanut*?
Matt Cutts: DYEEAAHHHHHH.

Matt Cutts: I donna suppose you could speed things up?
Webmaster: If you’re in such a hurry, you could … find something useful to do.
Matt Cutts: I could do that… but I do not think you would accept my help, since I am only waiting around to kill you.
Webmaster: That does put a damper on our relationship.

Matt Cutts: You seem a decent fellow. I hate to kill you.
Whitehat: You seem a decent fellow. I hate to die.

Matt Cutts: Get used to disappointment.

Matt Cutts: I can’t compete with you physically, and you’re no match for my brains.
Webmaster: You’re that smart?
Matt Cutts: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Webmaster: Yes.
Matt Cutts: Morons.

Webmaster: You mock my pain.
Matt Cutts: Life is pain… Anyone who says differently is selling something.

Webmasters: We’ll never survive.
Matt Cutts: Nonsense. You’re only saying that because no one ever has.

Blackhat: Surrender.
Matt Cutts: You mean you wish to surrender to me? Very well, I accept.

Matt Cutts: But, I promise I will not kill you until you reach the top.

Matt Cutts: Good night. Good work. Sleep well. I’ll most likely kill you in the morning.

Webmaster1: Ever since Matt Cutts penalized his site, his confidence has been shattered.
Webmaster2: Why’d you say that name? You promised me you would never say that name!
Webmaster1: What, Matt Cutts?
Webmaster2: Aahaahh!
Webmaster1: Matt Cutts! Matt Cutts! Matt Cutts!
Webmaster2: I’m not listening!

KJ

PS: Any chance Matt this humor will help me get out of the penalty box? ;-)

]]> By: Ryan http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86699 Ryan Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:56:59 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86699 Agreed ogletree... that's part of what I was saying. (just not as well) In fact we used to have a very successful multi user blog that did just that somewhere circa the year 2000. Yeah, I'm not advocating it Matt... just saying that we're seeing it because it's the easiest to do and there's plenty of targets. So easy and so many targets that overkill (like you say) is pretty much the only thing stopping it from running wild. #1 is my favorite... as I'm sure you've probably seen with the sites I do (slang translator, feed button etc..) I won't reveal my methods, but I just find terms that get decent search traffic but don't yield any good "useful" results... then create those sites. there's really no better form of SEO. but #3 is easy... and other bloggers are quick to take the bait... and it works. What's worse than the hacking is what I'll dub "guerilla SEO"... where somebody actually placed articles about my site that linked to his site... and eventually DDOS attacked my site every time they released a press release about theirs (including one that claimed credit for a feature I invented). Anyway, I'm ranting now..... PS you forgot to take the arggggh out of the spam detection. PSS somebody actually came up to me and said "hey, are you the Ryan mentioned in that Matt Cutts video"... I found it quite amusing. Agreed ogletree… that’s part of what I was saying. (just not as well) In fact we used to have a very successful multi user blog that did just that somewhere circa the year 2000.

Yeah, I’m not advocating it Matt… just saying that we’re seeing it because it’s the easiest to do and there’s plenty of targets. So easy and so many targets that overkill (like you say) is pretty much the only thing stopping it from running wild.

#1 is my favorite… as I’m sure you’ve probably seen with the sites I do (slang translator, feed button etc..) I won’t reveal my methods, but I just find terms that get decent search traffic but don’t yield any good “useful” results… then create those sites. there’s really no better form of SEO.

but #3 is easy… and other bloggers are quick to take the bait… and it works.

What’s worse than the hacking is what I’ll dub “guerilla SEO”… where somebody actually placed articles about my site that linked to his site… and eventually DDOS attacked my site every time they released a press release about theirs (including one that claimed credit for a feature I invented).

Anyway, I’m ranting now…..
PS you forgot to take the arggggh out of the spam detection.
PSS somebody actually came up to me and said “hey, are you the Ryan mentioned in that Matt Cutts video”… I found it quite amusing.

]]> By: ogletree http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86697 ogletree Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:34:52 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86697 “Piss them off” does not just mean outrageous claims or just spout nonsense. Saying the truth in a very nasty way or some claim that cannot be proved can do it. Some people make a living doing this and are very popular. Being controversial does not equal short lived. “Piss them off” does not just mean outrageous claims or just spout nonsense. Saying the truth in a very nasty way or some claim that cannot be proved can do it. Some people make a living doing this and are very popular. Being controversial does not equal short lived.

]]> By: Matt Cutts http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86691 Matt Cutts Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:03:38 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86691 Ryan, that was a meaty discussion during the radio show. The thing about #3 is that is like "crying wolf"--if a site continues to make outrageous claims or just spout nonsense, people will stop trusting that site. So if you want to build a long-term business, I think things like #1 and #2 are the best bets. Ryan, that was a meaty discussion during the radio show. The thing about #3 is that is like “crying wolf”–if a site continues to make outrageous claims or just spout nonsense, people will stop trusting that site. So if you want to build a long-term business, I think things like #1 and #2 are the best bets.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86677 Ryan Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:17:33 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goodkarma-radio-show-and-a-clarification/#comment-86677 You talk about linkbaiting by attacking other people or starting hoaxes... Sadly, I don't see it going away. Getting a link for SEO is the equivalent of trying to write a successful journalism column. There's only a few good ways to get reactions out of people: 1.) offer them something useful (like dear abby) 2.) Make them Laugh or entertian them (rick reilley, dave berry, mitch album) 3.) Piss them off (take your pick) The same is true in the SEO world, and sadly #1 and #2 actually require creativity and skill. You talk about linkbaiting by attacking other people or starting hoaxes…

Sadly, I don’t see it going away.

Getting a link for SEO is the equivalent of trying to write a successful journalism column.

There’s only a few good ways to get reactions out of people:
1.) offer them something useful (like dear abby)
2.) Make them Laugh or entertian them (rick reilley, dave berry, mitch album)
3.) Piss them off (take your pick)

The same is true in the SEO world, and sadly #1 and #2 actually require creativity and skill.

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