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		<title>By: Andrei Ștefănucă</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/debunking-google-in-bed-with-cia/#comment-787755</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrei Ștefănucă</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 02:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello, I know this is a bit of an old topic, but there are several things that I would like to point out.

This is not strictly about the Google - CIA relationship, if any. This is about the Google - People - CIA relationship. I am not affiliated to either (except the people, of course) but I see both good things and potential bad things at stake here. The bad things apply if and only if the process isn&#039;t fine tuned and, at the same time, receiving feedback from all the parties involved.
There are a lot of ways in which Google and the CIA could work together for the good of the people. Imagine a counterfeiting operation, for example. A location-based modeling of the places of reported counterfeit goods or finances could lead to a quicker apprehension of the bad guys and to less damage sustained by private institutions, therefore to more good for the people then if the counterfeiting process were to continue (if we presume that the state uses its non-counterfeited resources to support the people and to apprehend the bad guys, of course). Another point would be theft or loss of certain electronics. Items that have either a GPS or a way to link up to the net can be built to automatically let the authorities know where they are, via an automated email, if the devices is broken into, an email that might contain the fingerprint of the thief for example (if the touchscreen/pad is made to collect it). More good for the people (less items lost and stolen), implemented and data-crunched by Google (because they know their stuff when it comes to both soft and hard tools) enforced by the state (or the CIA, in major felony operations). These are only two examples of the mechanisms that should be allowed to work, in this triangular relationship. 

Then there&#039;s the matter of abuse. Let&#039;s take online piracy, what can be set up to avoid abuse is a random, but anonymous and voluntary, Jury of 12 that can vote on wiretapping files to decide if they are worthy and ethical to pursue or not. In this scenario, the public could just relax while browsing the web. If that doesn&#039;t work, someone could buy the file-sharing sites that are active and use the advertising income on the site to pay the content providers (for the ripped movies, music and software) according to the number of downloads per item. File-sharing sites can also be a novel way to advertise new content before its general launch to create hype in markets. There are a lot of mechanisms that one could think of to make sure that all three poles of this hypothetical relationship are happy together. 
The thing to realize is that Google and the CIA are made of people, and that they can actually help people provided that they implement feedback cycles to their operating procedures that involve constant input from the general population, non-affiliated to neither Google and the CIA. 

I wanted to do a 5-7-5-7-7 tanka as well, but it&#039;s 5 o&#039;clock in Romania and I all I can think about right now is sheep jumping fences.

So, regarding this Robert Steele, pardon me but he somewhat sounds like a comic book character.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I know this is a bit of an old topic, but there are several things that I would like to point out.</p>
<p>This is not strictly about the Google &#8211; CIA relationship, if any. This is about the Google &#8211; People &#8211; CIA relationship. I am not affiliated to either (except the people, of course) but I see both good things and potential bad things at stake here. The bad things apply if and only if the process isn&#8217;t fine tuned and, at the same time, receiving feedback from all the parties involved.<br />
There are a lot of ways in which Google and the CIA could work together for the good of the people. Imagine a counterfeiting operation, for example. A location-based modeling of the places of reported counterfeit goods or finances could lead to a quicker apprehension of the bad guys and to less damage sustained by private institutions, therefore to more good for the people then if the counterfeiting process were to continue (if we presume that the state uses its non-counterfeited resources to support the people and to apprehend the bad guys, of course). Another point would be theft or loss of certain electronics. Items that have either a GPS or a way to link up to the net can be built to automatically let the authorities know where they are, via an automated email, if the devices is broken into, an email that might contain the fingerprint of the thief for example (if the touchscreen/pad is made to collect it). More good for the people (less items lost and stolen), implemented and data-crunched by Google (because they know their stuff when it comes to both soft and hard tools) enforced by the state (or the CIA, in major felony operations). These are only two examples of the mechanisms that should be allowed to work, in this triangular relationship. </p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the matter of abuse. Let&#8217;s take online piracy, what can be set up to avoid abuse is a random, but anonymous and voluntary, Jury of 12 that can vote on wiretapping files to decide if they are worthy and ethical to pursue or not. In this scenario, the public could just relax while browsing the web. If that doesn&#8217;t work, someone could buy the file-sharing sites that are active and use the advertising income on the site to pay the content providers (for the ripped movies, music and software) according to the number of downloads per item. File-sharing sites can also be a novel way to advertise new content before its general launch to create hype in markets. There are a lot of mechanisms that one could think of to make sure that all three poles of this hypothetical relationship are happy together.<br />
The thing to realize is that Google and the CIA are made of people, and that they can actually help people provided that they implement feedback cycles to their operating procedures that involve constant input from the general population, non-affiliated to neither Google and the CIA. </p>
<p>I wanted to do a 5-7-5-7-7 tanka as well, but it&#8217;s 5 o&#8217;clock in Romania and I all I can think about right now is sheep jumping fences.</p>
<p>So, regarding this Robert Steele, pardon me but he somewhat sounds like a comic book character.</p>
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		<title>By: Riaan</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/debunking-google-in-bed-with-cia/#comment-748575</link>
		<dc:creator>Riaan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is all well known and documented. But you guys know that already, don&#039;t you ? So do we!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is all well known and documented. But you guys know that already, don&#8217;t you ? So do we!</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/debunking-google-in-bed-with-cia/#comment-634675</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 09:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The comments made in response to your article are quite depressing, Matt. It shows how prevalent the &quot;anti-conspiracy&quot; nuttery has become. 

Google is known to have worked with the NSA. An example from February of this year can be found here:
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/02/google-seeks-nsa-help/

Say, Mr. Cutts, isn&#039;t that the intelligence agency you &quot;formerly&quot; worked for?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments made in response to your article are quite depressing, Matt. It shows how prevalent the &#8220;anti-conspiracy&#8221; nuttery has become. </p>
<p>Google is known to have worked with the NSA. An example from February of this year can be found here:<br />
<a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/02/google-seeks-nsa-help/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/02/google-seeks-nsa-help/</a></p>
<p>Say, Mr. Cutts, isn&#8217;t that the intelligence agency you &#8220;formerly&#8221; worked for?</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas Estrada-palma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas Estrada-palma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now why would a debunking piece by a Google employee about Google being in bed with the CIA be at the top of a Google search? Of course Google is a CIA operation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now why would a debunking piece by a Google employee about Google being in bed with the CIA be at the top of a Google search? Of course Google is a CIA operation.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/debunking-google-in-bed-with-cia/#comment-596654</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 23:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I expect all large corporations with matters of national security to deal with the goverment to keep america safe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect all large corporations with matters of national security to deal with the goverment to keep america safe.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Vidallon</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/debunking-google-in-bed-with-cia/#comment-563742</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Vidallon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 22:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well... let us not forget the Web was born out of DARPA. There is also an encrypted,  secure layer of digital data flows not accessible or visible to the public. Hey wait a minute I think I saw big foot on my monitor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; let us not forget the Web was born out of DARPA. There is also an encrypted,  secure layer of digital data flows not accessible or visible to the public. Hey wait a minute I think I saw big foot on my monitor.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/debunking-google-in-bed-with-cia/#comment-512490</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 14:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice imagination, BUT ... get real - the name of their contact at the CIA has been exposed. 

His name is Dr. Rick Steinheiser, he&#039;s in the Office of Research and Development at the Central Intelligence Agency. &quot;One of the problems with privatized power is that it&#039;s not subject to public audit,&quot; said Steele, arguing that groups should rally to &quot;put Google out of business unless they&#039;re willing to go the open source software route.&quot;

Robert David Steele, a 20-year Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer and a former clandestine services case officer with the Central Intelligence Agency, is the CEO of OSS.net.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice imagination, BUT &#8230; get real &#8211; the name of their contact at the CIA has been exposed. </p>
<p>His name is Dr. Rick Steinheiser, he&#8217;s in the Office of Research and Development at the Central Intelligence Agency. &#8220;One of the problems with privatized power is that it&#8217;s not subject to public audit,&#8221; said Steele, arguing that groups should rally to &#8220;put Google out of business unless they&#8217;re willing to go the open source software route.&#8221;</p>
<p>Robert David Steele, a 20-year Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer and a former clandestine services case officer with the Central Intelligence Agency, is the CEO of OSS.net.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/debunking-google-in-bed-with-cia/#comment-464720</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s nice to see soe people actually thiking for themselves in some of the comments.

I have no proof that the CIA is in bed with google, but you only need to understand how the CIA works, and research all of the criminal activities they&#039;ve been engaged in since they were formed after WW2. 

You can never discount anything these crooks (CIA) are blamed for, as their documented track record is crazier than any fiction we&#039;ve ever seen produced.

There are tons of free documentaries out there, like secrets of the CIA, and the power of nightmares, research for yourselves people!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nice to see soe people actually thiking for themselves in some of the comments.</p>
<p>I have no proof that the CIA is in bed with google, but you only need to understand how the CIA works, and research all of the criminal activities they&#8217;ve been engaged in since they were formed after WW2. </p>
<p>You can never discount anything these crooks (CIA) are blamed for, as their documented track record is crazier than any fiction we&#8217;ve ever seen produced.</p>
<p>There are tons of free documentaries out there, like secrets of the CIA, and the power of nightmares, research for yourselves people!</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Rohan</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/debunking-google-in-bed-with-cia/#comment-401120</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Rohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you also do not believe in the existence of the Pat Robertson Intelligence Scholars program either? You all doth protest creatively and excessively, I&#039;ll give you that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you also do not believe in the existence of the Pat Robertson Intelligence Scholars program either? You all doth protest creatively and excessively, I&#8217;ll give you that.</p>
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		<title>By: Raul</title>
		<link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/debunking-google-in-bed-with-cia/#comment-392566</link>
		<dc:creator>Raul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I was thinking I just inventend the Helicopter Ads ... I had to find this post. 
Damn ! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was thinking I just inventend the Helicopter Ads &#8230; I had to find this post.<br />
Damn ! <img src='http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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