Comments on: Data portability for your email, searches, calendar, … http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/ neat fun stuff Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:17:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Lauren Weinstein http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120557 Lauren Weinstein Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:53:59 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120557 I agree with Matt. It's easy to get starry-eyed over "foundational" concepts like data portability, and the balls that you want to keep your eyes on are really the applications themselves. Standards can cut both ways -- they can both be enablers and detriments to application flexibility, and have sometimes been purposely used to constrain, even while their ostensible purposes were exactly the opposite. Having said that, it is true that sunlight is better than cesspools in these environments, and to the extent that the portability project encourages the former it may indeed have very significant positive contributions to make. Of course the proof is in the eating, so to speak. --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren@vortex.com I agree with Matt. It’s easy to get starry-eyed over “foundational” concepts like data portability, and the balls that you want to keep your eyes on are really the applications themselves.

Standards can cut both ways — they can both be enablers and detriments to application flexibility, and have sometimes been purposely used to constrain, even while their ostensible purposes were exactly the opposite.

Having said that, it is true that sunlight is better than cesspools in these environments, and to the extent that the portability project encourages the former it may indeed have very significant positive contributions to make.

Of course the proof is in the eating, so to speak.

–Lauren–
Lauren Weinstein
lauren@vortex.com

]]> By: Rob Diana http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120524 Rob Diana Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:08:12 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120524 I just posted a rant about this yesterday. Nothing against the companies involved, but a group is only useful if you are doing something. If you look at the dataportability.org site, there is limited content and they are not hitting the issues yet. Maybe Scolbe's recent issues will bring it more to the forefront. The link below is my "summary" on what they have so far. http://regulargeek.com/2008/01/11/what-does-data-portability-mean-to-you/ I just posted a rant about this yesterday. Nothing against the companies involved, but a group is only useful if you are doing something. If you look at the dataportability.org site, there is limited content and they are not hitting the issues yet. Maybe Scolbe’s recent issues will bring it more to the forefront.

The link below is my “summary” on what they have so far.
http://regulargeek.com/2008/01/11/what-does-data-portability-mean-to-you/

]]> By: Lars Borup jensen http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120491 Lars Borup jensen Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:04:24 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120491 Not to something quite different! Why doesn't Google host a "reversed" / "upside-down" day on their search results? "Simply" change ascending to descending on scores? It'll give a nice change for once ;-) just a thought Not to something quite different! Why doesn’t Google host a “reversed” / “upside-down” day on their search results? “Simply” change ascending to descending on scores? It’ll give a nice change for once ;-)

just a thought

]]> By: Fake Rake http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120488 Fake Rake Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:34:40 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120488 One of the things that was brought up in your last post about getting data out of Google was that you can't export chats from your Gmail history. As far as I can tell, that's still the case. If there was a setting to enable chats to show up in Gmail via POP/IMAP, I'd be all over that. One of the things that was brought up in your last post about getting data out of Google was that you can’t export chats from your Gmail history. As far as I can tell, that’s still the case.

If there was a setting to enable chats to show up in Gmail via POP/IMAP, I’d be all over that.

]]> By: mark http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120487 mark Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:13:09 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120487 I didn't know about some of the back up tools Google offers. Thanks for the notice ;) I didn’t know about some of the back up tools Google offers. Thanks for the notice ;)

]]> By: Chris http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120483 Chris Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:59:04 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120483 I use Apple's .Mac feature and it accomplishes this pretty well. Given that at $99 a year .Mac is still alive I have to imagine there's enough demand, even on a typical consumer level, for at least basic data portability. Given the (sorta) recent notMac initiative I have to imagine there's waaaaaaaaay more demand for it without that hefty price tag. As a person that works exclusively on Macs I am lucky to have all of my mail, bookmarks, calendars, contacts, passwords, and preferences automatically synched across *all* of my computers, but I am of course in the vast minority. It's nice to see that someone is working on bringing this to life in a less proprietary format because it truly is a game changer. I use Apple’s .Mac feature and it accomplishes this pretty well. Given that at $99 a year .Mac is still alive I have to imagine there’s enough demand, even on a typical consumer level, for at least basic data portability. Given the (sorta) recent notMac initiative I have to imagine there’s waaaaaaaaay more demand for it without that hefty price tag.

As a person that works exclusively on Macs I am lucky to have all of my mail, bookmarks, calendars, contacts, passwords, and preferences automatically synched across *all* of my computers, but I am of course in the vast minority. It’s nice to see that someone is working on bringing this to life in a less proprietary format because it truly is a game changer.

]]> By: Omar Yesid Mariño http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120481 Omar Yesid Mariño Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:39:55 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120481 That sounds good but I cannot understand exactly what you mean with this new technology. Maybe you can do a post for the newbies. That sounds good but I cannot understand exactly what you mean with this new technology. Maybe you can do a post for the newbies.

]]> By: Silicon Valley http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120462 Silicon Valley Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:35:49 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120462 It is remarkable that the <a href="http://scobleizer.com/2008/01/03/ive-been-kicked-off-of-facebook/" rel="nofollow">one post by Scoble </a> had so much viral impact in just one week among the Web 2.0 crowd. :-o There were probably others who are losing data - but they do not have a high profile pulpit to reveal. It is remarkable that the one post by Scoble had so much viral impact in just one week among the Web 2.0 crowd. :-o

There were probably others who are losing data - but they do not have a high profile pulpit to reveal.

]]> By: Multi-Worded Adam http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120457 Multi-Worded Adam Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:10:58 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120457 Sweet! The <code> tags work here. The overall geekiness of this site will increase by at least 5% following this important discovery. Sweet! The <code> tags work here. The overall geekiness of this site will increase by at least 5% following this important discovery.

]]> By: Multi-Worded Adam http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120456 Multi-Worded Adam Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:09:44 +0000 http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/data-portability-for-your-email-searches-calendar/#comment-120456 <code> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> <Matt_Cutts> <XML_Interest>false</XML_Interest> <Mad_Nerd_Skillz>-1</Mad_Nerd_Skillz> </Matt_Cutts> </code> I'm not 100% convinced Data Portability is a good thing (although XML is mad dope shizzle fo' sho', yo.) The big problem that I can see is the number of people who will want to get at anything from anywhere and set usernames and passwords such as "admin", "password", etc. That's a bit generalized, but you get the idea.
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I’m not 100% convinced Data Portability is a good thing (although XML is mad dope shizzle fo’ sho’, yo.) The big problem that I can see is the number of people who will want to get at anything from anywhere and set usernames and passwords such as “admin”, “password”, etc.

That’s a bit generalized, but you get the idea.

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