Also, IF Google do end-up penalizing these sites, will their temporary time is the Sun offset being shunted to page x?

You raise some good points. However, go check out some financial queries such as “loans” on google.co.uk. You’ll see that for many financial queries Moneyexpert has fairly recently overtaken Moneysupermarket. How? They’re quite strong members of the digital point ads scheme. And sticking with that query, 5 of the first 10 sites are also members. Coincidence? So for those of us trying to be clean in this particular area, it’s very difficult to get anywhere. I’ve managed a first page result for this particular query, and by being clean, but have since dropped out again, pushed out by those signed up to this scheme.

Shall I move to defcon 3

You should tell you Mommy that are you are watching too much TV and living in a fantasy World.

That website was misbehaving, and Google socked it. They cleaned up their act, and — like magic — they reappeared in the Google organic index, days later.

The question *everybody* should ask themselves is, if this happened to them … would *their* site be re-indexed in a few days? VERY NOT LIKELY.

I doubt a mom & pop site would have been dropped in the 1st place. IMO it was publicity for Google in regards to spam.

I would say Google are fully aware of most spam and simply discount it in the majority of cases.

In regards to that stupid Digital Spam Network, why on Earth would anyone want to associated themselves with such spam my sites for no gain other than a Placebo effect?

DP forums has always been playground for spammers, black-hats, those with low morals and ethics. Every decent bit of advice out of that place gets buried in ten times of poor & high risk advice.

I don’t believe everybody should have to ask that question. The only reason you might have to ask that question of your own site is if you are ignoring the guidelines of all the search engines. Build your site for real visitors and you have nothing to ask, and nothing to worry about. No need to wonder about the “if” part of this, and no need to wonder if your site would be re-indexed quickly like the BMW site was.

As to the doorway/startpage thing. It makes no difference what you call a page at all. I can call all my pages doorways and it makes no difference. If a page is linked to and fro from other pages of your site, then that page is fine and dandy. It doesn’t make a difference what you call it. If a page is not accessible from any other page, and the page is not disallowed in your robots.txt file, then it’s clear what that page is for as well, and makes no difference what you call it either.

Re: AdSense for Domains … I see few explanations that don’t end up in “well, it’s the lesser of two evils”. Clearly, this is a major credibility problem for Google; otherwise, we wouldn’t end up with this kind of rationale. And when parked domains start appearing in the organic search — or in AdWords — well, that tells me more about what Google does, and does not, care about.

That website was misbehaving, and Google socked it. They cleaned up their act, and — like magic — they reappeared in the Google organic index, days later.

The question *everybody* should ask themselves is, if this happened to them … would *their* site be re-indexed in a few days? VERY NOT LIKELY.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=98931

The first thread gives you an idea about the lunacy of sites involved with this scheme. The silly links “have to” be on EVERY page of your site with NO competing links such as Google Adsense or anything else. Most ad stuff links at least give you the option of which pages, etc. Not that link monger scheme network though.

That alone would tell me how silly the network is for thinking Google does not know or care about it. LOL The idea that those links will help a site is downright silly. Anyone thinking it does is simply lacking in common sense. Read those threads and you all can decide. It’s crazy stuff. Just the idea of sooo many being snow-balled is amazing to me. People always want the quick fixes. I think if you follow the trail of sites in this linking scheme you will find some extremely butt-ugly sites with not a clue about design or anything else for that matter. No serious site owner should ever partake in this kind of thing.

Goes to show there are no quick fixes or tricks. They may last awhile but don’t last a long time. Anyone thinking this is all about links will not be successful in the long run either.