<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: A different view on Google Reader</title> <atom:link href="http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/</link> <description>neat fun stuff</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:30:01 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Rick Hargett</title><link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-88186</link> <dc:creator>Rick Hargett</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:54:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-88186</guid> <description>I&#039;ve recently switched from Bloglines to Google Reader as well.  The one Bloglines feature I miss is the ability to publicly share ones feed list with a simple URL.  I believe w/ Bloglines you can also choose to make private or share feeds on a feed-by-feed basis.  For example:For example: http://www.bloglines.com/public/techbuzzIf this is in the google reader, I&#039;m missing it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve recently switched from Bloglines to Google Reader as well.  The one Bloglines feature I miss is the ability to publicly share ones feed list with a simple URL.  I believe w/ Bloglines you can also choose to make private or share feeds on a feed-by-feed basis.  For example:</p><p>For example: <a href="http://www.bloglines.com/public/techbuzz" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloglines.com/public/techbuzz</a></p><p>If this is in the google reader, I&#8217;m missing it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Fruit Helmet Cat</title><link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-88140</link> <dc:creator>Fruit Helmet Cat</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:48:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-88140</guid> <description>I just started using Google Reader and I am sold on it. I haven&#039;t been using readers much, but the ease of use and the convenience of being able to access it as well as my other tools is really nifty. Everything is a give and take, I&#039;m happy!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just started using Google Reader and I am sold on it. I haven&#8217;t been using readers much, but the ease of use and the convenience of being able to access it as well as my other tools is really nifty. Everything is a give and take, I&#8217;m happy!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Paul Laroquod</title><link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-87970</link> <dc:creator>Paul Laroquod</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 05:21:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-87970</guid> <description>Investing this problem with dates I have discovered that it is intentional, as explained in a posting in Google Groups:&quot;Sorting by &quot;date&quot; is actually sorting by the date that Reader sees items (we can&#039;t really trust dates that are inside feeds since they are very often incorrect). If a feed switched blogging systems or otherwise appears new to Reader, then you&#039;ll see it at the top.However, this should be happening rarely. If you see it consistently happen for specific feeds, then report it to us.Mihai Parparita Google Reader Engineer&quot;I&#039;m afraid I must object to this philosophy in the strongest possible terms. The dates that are inside feeds are to be respected, by specification. If the dates listed inside a feed are incorrect, then that&#039;s the feed producer&#039;s problem to fix. If Google decides to second-guess the feed author and apply its own dates, there are unintended consequences, especially for brand new feeds. I just started publishing a feed, and Google decided to ignore my dates and apply its own. The problem is that there is no logic to the dates Google chose. They don&#039;t sequence the same way as the dates inside the feed, nor do they sequence the same way as the appearance of entries in the feed. As a result, the entry listed as &#039;most recent&#039; is over a year old, and the actual most recent entry appears near the bottom of the list.What is even worse is that there is absolutely nothing that I can do to correct this situation, because the tools given me by the Atom specification to specify dates have been deactivated and ignored. Those historical entries that were added all at once will always be incorrectly sorted with entries appearing &#039;more recent&#039; than other entries that were written more than a year later. This is the problem when aggregator developers ignore the specifications and try the &#039;fix&#039; broken or inaccurate feeds by second-guessing the authors. You end up breaking the ability to specify anything accurately, rendering part of the feed specification irrelevant, and taking control out of the hands of the people who most properly and efficiently should have that control: those who are closest to the data.Please respect the dates in feeds as laid out in the specification.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Investing this problem with dates I have discovered that it is intentional, as explained in a posting in Google Groups:</p><p>&#8220;Sorting by &#8220;date&#8221; is actually sorting by the date that Reader sees<br /> items (we can&#8217;t really trust dates that are inside feeds since they<br /> are very often incorrect). If a feed switched blogging systems or<br /> otherwise appears new to Reader, then you&#8217;ll see it at the top.</p><p>However, this should be happening rarely. If you see it consistently<br /> happen for specific feeds, then report it to us.</p><p>Mihai Parparita<br /> Google Reader Engineer&#8221;</p><p>I&#8217;m afraid I must object to this philosophy in the strongest possible terms. The dates that are inside feeds are to be respected, by specification. If the dates listed inside a feed are incorrect, then that&#8217;s the feed producer&#8217;s problem to fix. If Google decides to second-guess the feed author and apply its own dates, there are unintended consequences, especially for brand new feeds. I just started publishing a feed, and Google decided to ignore my dates and apply its own. The problem is that there is no logic to the dates Google chose. They don&#8217;t sequence the same way as the dates inside the feed, nor do they sequence the same way as the appearance of entries in the feed. As a result, the entry listed as &#8216;most recent&#8217; is over a year old, and the actual most recent entry appears near the bottom of the list.</p><p>What is even worse is that there is absolutely nothing that I can do to correct this situation, because the tools given me by the Atom specification to specify dates have been deactivated and ignored. Those historical entries that were added all at once will always be incorrectly sorted with entries appearing &#8216;more recent&#8217; than other entries that were written more than a year later. This is the problem when aggregator developers ignore the specifications and try the &#8216;fix&#8217; broken or inaccurate feeds by second-guessing the authors. You end up breaking the ability to specify anything accurately, rendering part of the feed specification irrelevant, and taking control out of the hands of the people who most properly and efficiently should have that control: those who are closest to the data.</p><p>Please respect the dates in feeds as laid out in the specification.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Paul Laroquod</title><link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-87967</link> <dc:creator>Paul Laroquod</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 04:50:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-87967</guid> <description>Google Reader does not read dates properly in an Atom feed. Instead of respecting the &#039;updated&#039; tags on each entry, it gives each entry a mysterious date within the last few days -- even if they are months old. I have a feeling that Google is overriding the date set by the author in favour of the modified date on the cached copy of the target webpage. If so, this is entirely the wrong way to handle a feed. One cannot and should not assume that the date the file at the target URL was last written is the date the entry changed. There are all sorts of reasons to rewrite that file that have nothing to do with the actual content. This messes up all the sorting and makes it impossible for me to look at some Atom feeds in chronological order. See the feed at my website (linked through my name) for an example of this bug.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google Reader does not read dates properly in an Atom feed. Instead of respecting the &#8216;updated&#8217; tags on each entry, it gives each entry a mysterious date within the last few days &#8212; even if they are months old. I have a feeling that Google is overriding the date set by the author in favour of the modified date on the cached copy of the target webpage. If so, this is entirely the wrong way to handle a feed. One cannot and should not assume that the date the file at the target URL was last written is the date the entry changed. There are all sorts of reasons to rewrite that file that have nothing to do with the actual content. This messes up all the sorting and makes it impossible for me to look at some Atom feeds in chronological order. See the feed at my website (linked through my name) for an example of this bug.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Robyn Tippins</title><link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-87788</link> <dc:creator>Robyn Tippins</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:57:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-87788</guid> <description>Major apologies.  The OPML export from Bloglines went beautifully.  I simply clicked to open the link, saved to my desktop and then uploaded to reader.  Gorgeous.Bloglines used to force you to save the output (looked like a flat RSS feed) as an OPML which could easily be screwed up depending on the format you used to save it.  This went much smoother.  Really Simple ;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Major apologies.  The OPML export from Bloglines went beautifully.  I simply clicked to open the link, saved to my desktop and then uploaded to reader.  Gorgeous.</p><p>Bloglines used to force you to save the output (looked like a flat RSS feed) as an OPML which could easily be screwed up depending on the format you used to save it.  This went much smoother.  Really Simple <img src='http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jeff</title><link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-87712</link> <dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 01:46:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-87712</guid> <description>Am I missing something with the keyboard support?In Blogliness I cruise through a 100 feedback using the &#039;j&#039; key to go through a feed and the &#039;s&#039; key to go to the next feed.In Reader I can space through a feed, but to go to the next one it&#039;s SHIFT-n and then SHIFT-o.  Not cool (or efficient).Am I missing something?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I missing something with the keyboard support?</p><p>In Blogliness I cruise through a 100 feedback using the &#8216;j&#8217; key to go through a feed and the &#8216;s&#8217; key to go to the next feed.</p><p>In Reader I can space through a feed, but to go to the next one it&#8217;s SHIFT-n and then SHIFT-o.  Not cool (or efficient).</p><p>Am I missing something?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ne1home</title><link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-87709</link> <dc:creator>ne1home</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 00:52:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-87709</guid> <description>It has  amjor problem for me.I update my own feed daily, and all other readers display it with no difficulty. But G Reader puts the publishing date two months in the past, so the new updates are pushed *completely off the page view*.This has been the case since the beta launch, despite me selecting the &#039;Neweset first&#039; option.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has  amjor problem for me.</p><p>I update my own feed daily, and all other readers display it with no difficulty.<br /> But G Reader puts the publishing date two months in the past, so the new updates are pushed *completely off the page view*.</p><p>This has been the case since the beta launch, despite me selecting the &#8216;Neweset first&#8217; option.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Aaron Shear</title><link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-87706</link> <dc:creator>Aaron Shear</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 00:06:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-87706</guid> <description>I noticed that at times when you are trying to search for blogs the labs searching icon comes up and it sits there for 10 minutes without a response.  I guess it&#039;s just a bug, or a strange new feature.  ;-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed that at times when you are trying to search for blogs the labs searching icon comes up and it sits there for 10 minutes without a response.  I guess it&#8217;s just a bug, or a strange new feature. <img src='http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alan</title><link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-87697</link> <dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:51:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-87697</guid> <description>I treaded slowly at first. Added a few of my blogs. IN about 3 days, I moved my entire Bloglines subscriptions. A couple days after that, I became an evangelist. Reader really is a lot better than Bloglines. If nothing else, its a lot more pleasing to the eye.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I treaded slowly at first. Added a few of my blogs. IN about 3 days, I moved my entire Bloglines subscriptions. A couple days after that, I became an evangelist. Reader really is a lot better than Bloglines. If nothing else, its a lot more pleasing to the eye.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: James Tippins</title><link>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-87690</link> <dc:creator>James Tippins</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:23:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/a-different-view-on-google-reader/#comment-87690</guid> <description>I love the Google reader but would love to be able to import my Bloglines and also have the RSS feed on my blog.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the Google reader but would love to be able to import my Bloglines and also have the RSS feed on my blog.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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